Colorado governor defends 'Don't Tread on Me' flag after student told to remove patch
usatoday.com
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/4249593
Democratic Gov. Jared Polis called the Gadsden flag 'a proud symbol of the American revolution' after a a Colorado student was told to remove a patch of the "Don't Tread on Me" flag from his backpack.
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Nonsense.
Have all the right wing imagery you want. It's a free country. Just don't expect to be free from criticism and don't get violent.
This is solid blue Colorado, where California Progressives have settled. They are used to getting their way, but Colorado is all about individual rights. So the Progressives out here get mad quite often when the government doesn't back their extreme views and mission to ban right-wing imagery. Keep in mind those in question are not a large group of people and do not reflect Progressives elsewhere in the nation.
I’m from Colorado, we have never been solid blue. Until quite recently we were reliably purple. Outside of our major metro areas we are still pretty red.
You’re talking out your ass.
I've lived in Colorado for 34 years, it's solid fucking blue.
There are only 500,000 that live outside the metro areas, so yes about 500K Republicans and 5 million Democrats.
A solid blue state wouldn’t elect someone like Boebert MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES you dumb fuck
Colorado springs is the second largest metro area and even that city is pretty red. You don't know what you are talking about
… in Colorado Springs private schools? I’m guessing you haven’t spent a second in Colorado Springs.
Colorado Springs isn't the ultra right-wing haven it used to be. It's purple and will turn blue in the near future.
Uh excuse me, you were just crying in another thread about how the state is totally solid blue but now it’s purple eh?
The decision of a SINGLE PERSON doesn’t mean SHIT. Fuck off weak ass troll
Then why did they want to remove a patch in a boy's backpack?
Why do you think overzealous school administrators are progressive?
Because they wanted to ban the gadsen flag
That’s not what progressivism is at all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Progressivism is about organized labor and a willingness to make big policy reforms if they’re evidence-based. Like progressives want universal healthcare instead of the shit sandwich of corporate bureaucracy Americans eat at the hospital. Progressives don’t care about backpack patches in schools. The school policies they care about having a strong teachers union and high quality, universal school lunches.
Oh how out of reality do you have to be to believe actual politicians act like that
The two leading progressive politicians (Bernie and AOC) talk about unions and Medicare for All until they’re blue in the face.
Also, I don’t think I’m the one here struggling with the reality of politics. This thread is about one rowdy teen having a patch removed from his backpack by a school employee. It doesn’t have anything to do with progressive politicians.
Don't bother. Right wingers will do anything and everything to act like victims.
I wish the right wing had never adopted the gladsden flag. They fly it without any real understanding of it's meaning and give it a bad name.
I assure you that if that was the case this culture war nonsense wouldn't exist and Americans would have a decent quality of life
Americans would have a decent quality of life if they would let the progressives make some policies. Progressive policies are wildly popular and generally serve to improve the quality of life for the average person.
The right has adopted talking about culture war issues 24/7 like it is their fucking job. Why? Because conservative policies are unpopular as fuck across the board, and are a non-starter for the majority of the country. Republicans abandoned a policy first platform a long time ago, and similarly the world is abandoning the small minded sycophants that make up their electorate.
Get a grip, you are embarrassing yourself...Nobody here is buying the bullshit you're trying to sell. You must have forgotten this ain't Reddit.
OR maybe it's because conservatives are more concerned about social issues than economic ones because... Well, that's what conservatives do by definition
You literally just argued that the "left" or more specifically progressives were the ones focusing on culture war issues. Moving the goal posts when someone calls you out on your bullshit is exactly what I would expect.
The entire conservative psychological warfare doctrine is based around never engaging with the substance of any issues because you know you can't fucking win. Get Wrekt ✌️
I love how you didn't answer the lastest comment in the thread and instead "answered" an older one just to get the "gotcha"
How are you so fucking dumb you can’t wrap your mind around the concept of minority groups?
Not everyone on the left is a prog, but you knew that of course. Weak attempt at trolling, sad
Yes, minority groups deserve the same rights and protections as all citizens. Anyone who says they shouldn't is a huge motherfucker
Do you think all progressives everywhere wanted to do that? You say a lot of silly things.
The ones relevant to that boy did
Ok, so what? You're protesting the idea in another thread that conservatives eventually will want all queer people dead by saying incidents of violence were isolated and here you're arguing that the actions of a single person can be expanded to all progressives.
Make up your mind.
Where do you find a "dissonance"? If anything it's you because you're claiming that few incidents represent around half of th US, while I just said that progressives relevant to the boy wanted to censor him
That was not what the claim I was responding to said.
You didn't say all of republicans would shoot and kill all LGBT people they could see?
https://lemmy.world/comment/3015464
That is not relevant to this thread. We are talking about the claim that progressives want to ban all right-wing imagery. You are muddying the waters. Intentionally. Don't be dishonest.
You were the one that brought in the other thread first, just saying https://lemmy.world/comment/3019065
Still haven't read those articles I provided you I see.
That is not relevant to this thread. We are talking about the claim that progressives want to ban all right-wing imagery. You are muddying the waters. Intentionally. Don't be dishonest.
Sorry, you have proven yourself to be dishonest in the other thread. Goodbye.
Wait....you actually think that 50% of the United States population self-identifies as either conservative, Republican, or some combination of the two? You need to get your fucking head examined.
If it wasn't for gerrymandering and the electoral college Republicans would be getting draxxed in literally every single presidential election as well as a significantly larger number of Congressional and Senatorial elections.
Sure sure, that's why it's always around 50/50 with a slim majority that allows each party to govern
Wrong, it is because:
Republicans push policies that intentionally attempt to reduce voter turnout.
The Senate does not allow for proportional representation.
Congressional districts are so heavily gerrymandered it is a fucking joke. Then when the LITERAL Supreme Court tells Republican led states to re-draw their maps they refuse (Alabama).
Presidential elections aren't decided by the popular vote which has leaned Democratic in every election by millions of votes over the last 30 years with the exception of Bush's second term which was an aberration due to the post 9/11 mind-virus and on-going wars in the middle east.
There is no conservative majority in this country no matter how you slice the pie. The game is rigged to allow conservatives an implicit advantage in rural states with lower populations to be over represented in national elections as well as in both legislative houses.
I don't know why I'm even wasting my fucking time on you...I lost the minute I started typing, but the shit you said was so fucking stupid I just couldn't help myself...
What a surprise, cities are progressive and rural areas are conservative! It's almost like that's what happens everywhere
You specifically argued that conservatives represent "roughly half" of the country. They don't. It isn't even close to that.
Just because you never left your city doesn't mean everyone's a Super-Sozialist activist
I understand the mathematical realities that allow a minority party to at some points control a majority position within the government.
Just because you are too fucking stupid to understand that does not mean that 50% of the country is right wing. Go back to r/conservative with the rest of the circle jerkers.
They were to remove the patches with firearms but there was a clear mixup in relation to adjacent themes like the no step on snek has become.
Not that you’re looking for a real answer or anything, given how you are already aware that the official position is that the no step on snek symbology is expressly allowed yet ask why the patche were removed. I can’t even tell if you read the actual fucking article.
Why are you playing dumb?
Well, I was answering the post, not the article
I guess we should ban the American flag too because the 1/6 folk waved it while taking the capitol
The sad part is you think you're making some profound point, but you're not.
If I'm not, explain why it's not as valid as the "capitol guys used no step on snek flags, it must be banned"
First thing, you need to understand that I don't support banning the usage of the glasden flag. I've already said that in my initial comment, so your comment was meaningless from the beginning. I quoted a piece from the article that could explain why some people view the glasden flag in a negative light today.
Second, the US flag is the flag of the country. If your logic is "well dipshits flew it during their failed attempt at a coup thus you're saying it should be banned?", your argument is childish. The US flag doesn't stand for what they did, they're just adopting it and using it despite it's underlying meaning. Banning the Nazi flag makes sense, because it's a literal enemy flag that represented Nazi ideology. Banning the confederate flag makes sense, because it's a literal traitorous flag flown by slavers and supporters of racism. The glasden flag doesn't have the same innate meaning because it was the flag of revolution, it's just that inbred wannabe revolutionaries today fly it when they're larping freedom fighter 80 action heroes when in reality they want authoritarian rule.
Again, I was quoting the article on why the glasden flag has a bad rap today, namely because idiotic authoritarians think they're all mcs from an 80s action flick.
Then what point did you even try to make? It's obvious it has a bad rep
I was pointing out why people asked him to take the patch off.. because it has a bad rep and why it has a bad rep.
That's like asking a Hindu to remove a swastika just because the Nazis gave it a bad rep while ignoring all its lore and significance to dharmic religions
The straw grabbing is getting desperate here.
I'm not for banning the glasden flag, I've said that multiple times. They asked him to take off the patch because of the unfortunate adoption by an authoritarian, violent movement. They didn't throw him in the gulag, they didn't expel him, etc. They told him to take it off, that's all.
Istfg you people are making a bigger deal out of this than needed.
Yes, and my example is about the exact same thing. I never said they'd "send him to a gulag" just that they'd ban it by "asking him to remove it"
I didn't realize the glasden flag was a religious symbol used by many different countries and cultures. Oh wait, it's not..
Also if your definition of ban is that loosy goosy then wow.
Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me that you didn't read the article, because it ends with the school allowing the student to display the patch after a meeting because they knew of the historical significance... They just made sure he couldn't wear the other patches, which had semi-automatic firearms on them..
So why tf are you here arguing about a ban that didn't fucking happen?
Shh, they don't want to be the bad guys.