"During the sentencing, US district judge Timothy Kelly, who was nominated to the bench by Trump, said the evidence suggested Tarrio was “the ultimate leader” of the seditious conspiracy, “the ultimate person, who organized, who was motivated by revolutionary zeal”."
I can think of someone else, Judge Kelly. The tangerine nightmare that appointed you.
Ugh, right? Really sounds like they set up Tarrio to take the fall for Trump. Fuck that.
That's the picture they're painting, but unfortunately for them nobody's buying it.
Unfortunately for us, someone probably will buy it. Somehow, there are millions of people who legitimately think Trump is the freaking Messiah.
That's very true, but all of their minds were made up about that years ago. I know the average person is fucking stupid as fuck, but I can't help but wonder how many people are still sitting on the fence when it comes to Trump.
Well, in most Western democracies, the really stupid seem to amount to about 10 to 20 percent (rising sadly). Due to a (completely intended) lack of education and decades of propaganda by the right, that amount seems to be about 30 percent in the US. That's still very much a minority! On the other hand, Hitler only needed about 35 percent of the popular vote to dismantle democracy in Germany (different political system though).
Is it really only 10 to 20 percent? I was thinking closer to 30, but maybe thats my pessimism
Tangerine Nightmare. nice
Welcome to jaaaaazz club.
I don't think it was either of them leading. It's probably organized crime. Also probably why they try to amp up bitcoins.... They got drug and trafficked Bitcoin they want to launder easier. Roger Stone, I think, is a closer connection to the real people puppeting these morons. Probably why Robert Kennedy jumped on board with the rightwing nonsense, because the mafia already killed JFK and he's owned.
That's one evil heartless piece of shit right there. Gang gang.
I don’t think it was either of them leading. It’s probably organized crime.
Kind of a contradiction, no? If the crime is organized that implies there's someone doing the organizing, a leader if you will.
this person is already lost. don't bother interacting with logic.
Nah, there's a difference between encouraging and actively planning.
Funny that you get downvoted like that. Trump wasn't posting on the Proud Boy's page to plan the attack, he's the match that set the gas on fire, he's not the guy who spread gas all over the living room... He always has the possibility to deny everything and say he didn't expect them to be dumb enough to actually attack the place because that would be sedition/treason and only an irrational idiot would do that! Where's this guy organized stuff and put his plan to execution... He's the irrational idiot...
Trump and the people in Trump’s immediate orbit were in direct or very close indirect contact with all of these groups. They knew exactly what was going to happen. In addition to the normal nutty Trump crowds they reached out to these psycho fascist militias and told them to be there to “fight like hell”. People like the Proud Boys know exactly what an invitation and rhetoric like that mean. This was not a rally that got out of hand. This was all planned out and coordinated with other schemes like the false elector scheme and the Georgia phone call. This was deliberate and planned. Trump is an idiot but he knew what he was doing. This has all been documented in the impeachment hearings, the Congressional Jan 6 investigations, and the recent indictments.
"During the sentencing, US district judge Timothy Kelly, who was nominated to the bench by Trump, said the evidence suggested Tarrio was “the ultimate leader” of the seditious conspiracy, “the ultimate person, who organized, who was motivated by revolutionary zeal”."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/sep/05/proud-boys-jan-6-biden-trump-trials-senate-politics-live-updates
I can think of someone else, Judge Kelly. The tangerine nightmare that appointed you.
Ugh, right? Really sounds like they set up Tarrio to take the fall for Trump. Fuck that.
That's the picture they're painting, but unfortunately for them nobody's buying it.
Unfortunately for us, someone probably will buy it. Somehow, there are millions of people who legitimately think Trump is the freaking Messiah.
That's very true, but all of their minds were made up about that years ago. I know the average person is fucking stupid as fuck, but I can't help but wonder how many people are still sitting on the fence when it comes to Trump.
Well, in most Western democracies, the really stupid seem to amount to about 10 to 20 percent (rising sadly). Due to a (completely intended) lack of education and decades of propaganda by the right, that amount seems to be about 30 percent in the US. That's still very much a minority! On the other hand, Hitler only needed about 35 percent of the popular vote to dismantle democracy in Germany (different political system though).
Is it really only 10 to 20 percent? I was thinking closer to 30, but maybe thats my pessimism
Tangerine Nightmare. nice
Welcome to jaaaaazz club.
I don't think it was either of them leading. It's probably organized crime. Also probably why they try to amp up bitcoins.... They got drug and trafficked Bitcoin they want to launder easier. Roger Stone, I think, is a closer connection to the real people puppeting these morons. Probably why Robert Kennedy jumped on board with the rightwing nonsense, because the mafia already killed JFK and he's owned.
But yeah fuck em all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/LHRARZUQNII6ZDO5KIJWTCGSMM.jpg&w=1200
That's one evil heartless piece of shit right there. Gang gang.
Kind of a contradiction, no? If the crime is organized that implies there's someone doing the organizing, a leader if you will.
this person is already lost. don't bother interacting with logic.
Nah, there's a difference between encouraging and actively planning.
Funny that you get downvoted like that. Trump wasn't posting on the Proud Boy's page to plan the attack, he's the match that set the gas on fire, he's not the guy who spread gas all over the living room... He always has the possibility to deny everything and say he didn't expect them to be dumb enough to actually attack the place because that would be sedition/treason and only an irrational idiot would do that! Where's this guy organized stuff and put his plan to execution... He's the irrational idiot...
Trump and the people in Trump’s immediate orbit were in direct or very close indirect contact with all of these groups. They knew exactly what was going to happen. In addition to the normal nutty Trump crowds they reached out to these psycho fascist militias and told them to be there to “fight like hell”. People like the Proud Boys know exactly what an invitation and rhetoric like that mean. This was not a rally that got out of hand. This was all planned out and coordinated with other schemes like the false elector scheme and the Georgia phone call. This was deliberate and planned. Trump is an idiot but he knew what he was doing. This has all been documented in the impeachment hearings, the Congressional Jan 6 investigations, and the recent indictments.