it's weird that we are prepared to die for democracy, yet willingly enter dictatorships daily for work and spend the majority of our waking lives with people we vaguely know

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That's not what dictatorship means

Workplaces are structured without democracy by default, and adding democracy can be helpful to workplace problems.

It's a job, not a country you're living in.

And? I shouldn't get a say? Without a say workers deal with being underpaid, and unsafe conditions. Sometimes the federal government helps fix this. But better yet form a strike, use the collective action to get a fairer workplace.

You do get a say in safety, there are very harsh laws if companies get reported not following safety measures. I think everyone is asking for more pay lol, but that has nothing to do with democracy. You only should have a say for so much, there are many things that only those with certain education should have a say. Because again, it's not a country.

there are many things that only those with certain education should have a say.

The rich are not smarter than us!

asking for more pay lol, but that has nothing to do with democracy

Getting more pay often requires democratic actions. Striking, unionizing. Unions democratize a workplace by providing leverage behind workers concerns.

there are very harsh laws if companies get reported not following safety measures.

You must not be American. From an American perspective, employers are basically lawless.

The eventual theoretical climax being siezing the means of production. Then there is no longer an owner or board of shareholders with structural heirarchical control over what is made, who makes it, and how much they are paid.

You must not be American. From an American perspective, employers are basically lawless.

I can tell that you have never dealt with an OSHA inspection. Like all things government, most of the rules make sense, some of them don't, and some things should be covered but aren't. It still breaks my brain that propane gas tank forklifts used indoors are allowed but an audible pneumatic hose leak supposedly isn't.

I have seen Cleatus scream about how they can't run their line because they hear a hose leak and use the forklift to drive to the break room. Sigh.

Education does not mean rich. There's still a workplace hierarchy in socialism, and even communism. Of course America is brought up for no reason lol. You don't understand what you're talking about, and that's not even true.

Sorry.

Directorship*

Functionally, they are the same.

What job (aka enslavement apparently)do you have irl

Factory worker.

So how would a factory line work without leadership lol

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You are incorrect. I absolutely run my businesses as a dictatorship because I’m the owner. We don’t β€œvote” on what to do, if you don’t like my ideas you are FIRED. Same goes for my tenants, if you don’t like my rules then get out of my property!!

I dictatorship would mean they'd die if they didn't do what you liked lol. It's in a government context, not a contractual obligation. A tennet can find another place to live, and a worker can find another company.

In what world does a dictatorship require everyone else to die if they don't agree? They have control over the institution, but they don't have total control over every individual.

You do not know what you are talking about. If you want to run your business as a democracy fine but you won’t be successful. I will continue running mine with an iron fist as a dictatorship.

It's literally the definition, you are just objectively wrong

https://www.britannica.com/topic/dictatorship

You are wrong, and stop telling me how to run my business

god forbid someone steal a packet of soy sauce.

Stealing anything from a place of business is unforgivable

I just imagine you as like a stiff Japanese business man and you're constantly holding up a katana, waiting to cut someone's head off for a petty crime.

Not far from the truth, but I am an all American businessman and as such prefer firearms to blades.

I will continue running mine with an iron fist as a dictatorship

Why do you talk like you're in a kung fu movie?

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