Reddit Admins Deny Subreddit Users the Right to Vote for Further Blackouts
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Reddit Migration@kbin.social – 421 points – Like many other subreddits, r/Finland is allowing its users to vote for whether or not they should a) reopen as normal, b) remain closed, or c) remain in protest mode.
However, the admins just sent them a nastygram essentially saying that's not allowed:
Your community sees well over 2 million unique visitors each month. Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense. There are a huge number of people that use this space now and who will in the future
Polling to close is not a viable option that will return a result that resolves this situation
However, mods can also see traffic stats, which show them as closer to 20k uniques per month. My guess is that this is a copy/pasted message and a whole bunch of subreddits are getting this notice.
I thought this was a particularly nasty new development, since up until now the excuse has been that we can't let these Landed Gentry dictate the state of our subreddits, but now they're explicitly saying that they also don't care about how the users of a subreddit vote either.
But they want users to vote out mods?
They don't want subreddits to close, but they've closed several.
Seems almost like their complaints actually don't make sense given their own actions are just an excuse...
Christian Selig's receipts (Apollo's dev) really underlined just how meaningless their words are, but the way they use copypasted bs at every turn makes it impossible to ignore.
Hell, this all started with them saying they respected moderators' right to protest, including going private. Utter nonsense.
Have any of these referendums happened? I have not been able to follow all this
Not yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to build an automated way of doing this.
God I hope they are dumb enough to follow through with this. Going to be hilarious when a subreddit votes out a Reddit employee who was installed as a mod.
That won't happen until Reddit decides to pay mods.
There are admins who are listed as mods in some subreddits, even if they probably don't do any moderation these days. Spez is a mod of r/HighQualityGifs, for example.
No they've just starting removing mods directly.
I've seen quite a few on everything from DND forums to niche TV shows I follow
can you link to any? I am v curious about how it looks
It seems clear to me at this point the Reddit admins are just making up whatever spur-of-the-moment idea they can come up with at any given moment. They had no idea that this shitstorm was coming and have no actual plan in place for dealing with it.
Keep the shitstorm spinning, I guess. The creativity of Reddit users collectively exceeds that of the admins.
Spez vote:
Do you want your moderators to be replaced?
A) Yes
B) Not no
Do you want your mods to be replaced?
A) Yes
B) Affirmative
C) Yes
D) Sounds good
E) Yes
E) OK, do it
G) Yes
H) Also Yes
K) NOn't
I love democracy...
Seems so,
There will never be a vote, it's just a smokescreen.