Maybe, maybe not. But I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it's only for casual playing.
Well it runs - just not as fast as you want. I personally would never want to play those competitive shooters that need pixel perfect aim on a handheld console… but that’s just me.
I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.
Yes. Why else did CSGO get controller and gyro support? While Valve did not promise anything in that regard, there was the expectation that CS2 would basically be fully optimized for Deck. Maybe it will still happen. The "final" release is nothing but an open beta.
To add to this, the expectation is because they basically killed off CSGO for CS2 as an upgrade, so it should have the same and more functionalities.
Yes you can still turn on CSGO from settings but it's worthless without servers.
Sure but they haven't cared about the state of their games in ages. Iike I'm all for pushing to get them to fix it and all, but think it's weird that people are surprised. Especially when the vast majority of their focus has been on steam for the last forever
Yeah we should be able to play half life Alyx on the steam deck too!!
Ah yes, I totally expect Nintendo games to play on all their hardware like a 3ds…
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Sure, but they also make mobile games, do you expect hose to play on the switch too…?
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No, a 3ds to switch is a pretty apt comparison about a modern pc to a steam deck actually.
There is absolutely no reason why anyone would assume this should be optimized for a mobile device. You would be limiting its potential in PC, if they can’t provide the same experience across all devices, they aren’t going to. It’s a competitor shooter for one thing….
Where am I comparing apples to oranges…? I’m using different approaches to show that not everygame a company designs is going to be playable on all devices, it’s NEVER, been that way. So why would it suddenly change just for this one case…?
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In terms of computer power, a Steam Deck is basically a mid-range laptop. Go buy a Dell Inspiron for about the same price and how does It run CS2?
How is any of that relevant to a company being able to design games for what they want…?
But I will address this point. Yes it would limit what they could do to the PC version, look at what happened to coop for BG3 on the series S, sometimes devices just can’t do everything….
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Where am I reaching?
I also never put words in your mouth. I’ve used different methods to describe how companies make games for other hardware all the time.
Why should this game be different? Are you going to answer any of my questions or are you just going to continue to deflect with these endless fallacies?
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How is that the same? This is a PC game running on a device meant to run PC games. Apples to apples
A severely limited device, like a 3ds compared to a switch even….
I'm glad you're making it apparent that you don't know what you're talking about. Sure you can't compare it to a two thousand dollar PC with top of the line hardware, but it's plenty capable, affordable and you can take it anywhere. They're fucking awesome and have made PC gaming accessible to lots of people
Yes it’s an awesome device and that’s not what was being discussed…
News flash, companies design games for different systems all the time, why should this one game be any different…?
You literally just said it's a severely limited device, which it definitely isn't. You've just done a complete 180 with your argument.
Compared to modern PCs… my argument hasn’t changed at all.
Well, I have seen some very crazy shit with Metroid Prime Hunters for DS.
I play Destiny 2 on my Asus ROG Ally almost daily, and have played lots of PVE and Gambit, but hate Crucible. It's really powerful, so I think it's possible to play competitive games on a handheld if you're comfortable with using a controller. Of course, you can plug it into a monitor and use the XG Mobile to get a decent graphics card. So yeah, I think a handheld can hold up to a gaming PC if you temper your expectations. You're not going to be playing at 4k, 120 fps, but instead 720p 50-60 fps. Good enough for casual play all the time.
I haven't played destiny 2 in a long while but isn't that game far from competitive?
It has competitive modes, but I don't know how well it would do at tournament play. I'm not a big fan of PVP, but I'm pretty sure the Ally is powerful enough to play most of those games if you lower the graphics to get a nice FPS. I just cited Destiny because it's what I've been playing lately.
Are competitive FPSs intended for handhelds?
Maybe, maybe not. But I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it's only for casual playing.
Well it runs - just not as fast as you want. I personally would never want to play those competitive shooters that need pixel perfect aim on a handheld console… but that’s just me.
Yes. Why else did CSGO get controller and gyro support? While Valve did not promise anything in that regard, there was the expectation that CS2 would basically be fully optimized for Deck. Maybe it will still happen. The "final" release is nothing but an open beta.
To add to this, the expectation is because they basically killed off CSGO for CS2 as an upgrade, so it should have the same and more functionalities.
Yes you can still turn on CSGO from settings but it's worthless without servers.
Sure but they haven't cared about the state of their games in ages. Iike I'm all for pushing to get them to fix it and all, but think it's weird that people are surprised. Especially when the vast majority of their focus has been on steam for the last forever
Yeah we should be able to play half life Alyx on the steam deck too!!
Ah yes, I totally expect Nintendo games to play on all their hardware like a 3ds…
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Sure, but they also make mobile games, do you expect hose to play on the switch too…?
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No, a 3ds to switch is a pretty apt comparison about a modern pc to a steam deck actually.
There is absolutely no reason why anyone would assume this should be optimized for a mobile device. You would be limiting its potential in PC, if they can’t provide the same experience across all devices, they aren’t going to. It’s a competitor shooter for one thing….
Where am I comparing apples to oranges…? I’m using different approaches to show that not everygame a company designs is going to be playable on all devices, it’s NEVER, been that way. So why would it suddenly change just for this one case…?
sadfasfasdf
In terms of computer power, a Steam Deck is basically a mid-range laptop. Go buy a Dell Inspiron for about the same price and how does It run CS2?
How is any of that relevant to a company being able to design games for what they want…?
But I will address this point. Yes it would limit what they could do to the PC version, look at what happened to coop for BG3 on the series S, sometimes devices just can’t do everything….
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Where am I reaching?
I also never put words in your mouth. I’ve used different methods to describe how companies make games for other hardware all the time.
Why should this game be different? Are you going to answer any of my questions or are you just going to continue to deflect with these endless fallacies?
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How is that the same? This is a PC game running on a device meant to run PC games. Apples to apples
A severely limited device, like a 3ds compared to a switch even….
I'm glad you're making it apparent that you don't know what you're talking about. Sure you can't compare it to a two thousand dollar PC with top of the line hardware, but it's plenty capable, affordable and you can take it anywhere. They're fucking awesome and have made PC gaming accessible to lots of people
Yes it’s an awesome device and that’s not what was being discussed…
News flash, companies design games for different systems all the time, why should this one game be any different…?
You literally just said it's a severely limited device, which it definitely isn't. You've just done a complete 180 with your argument.
Compared to modern PCs… my argument hasn’t changed at all.
Well, I have seen some very crazy shit with Metroid Prime Hunters for DS.
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I play Destiny 2 on my Asus ROG Ally almost daily, and have played lots of PVE and Gambit, but hate Crucible. It's really powerful, so I think it's possible to play competitive games on a handheld if you're comfortable with using a controller. Of course, you can plug it into a monitor and use the XG Mobile to get a decent graphics card. So yeah, I think a handheld can hold up to a gaming PC if you temper your expectations. You're not going to be playing at 4k, 120 fps, but instead 720p 50-60 fps. Good enough for casual play all the time.
I haven't played destiny 2 in a long while but isn't that game far from competitive?
It has competitive modes, but I don't know how well it would do at tournament play. I'm not a big fan of PVP, but I'm pretty sure the Ally is powerful enough to play most of those games if you lower the graphics to get a nice FPS. I just cited Destiny because it's what I've been playing lately.