If they are willing to do it to catch bad guys, who's stopping them from doing it to monitor good guys as well?
Yeah, and the FBI has been doing that for at least 7 years now, to catch some pretty disgusting criminals
The outrage...
The outrage comes from the fact that the FBI had to literally distribute that kind of content in order to catch people, and it kind of borders on entrapment.
I don’t have any sympathy for these predators. I’m glad they got locked away. I just think the FBI is using unconstitutional means to do so
That's not my understanding of "entrapment". It needs to coerce somebody into something they otherwise would not do.
"Making available" illicit material is not coercive.
If I remember correctly, it was brought up in court but dismissed. So you’re right there.
Is the FBI gonna start giving away cocaine to try and catch dealers too?
Hmm 🤔🤔🤔
Nah fuck that.
Number 1 - the world exists outside the USA and a lot of those fuckers live there.
And Number 2 - kiddie fiddlers don't get rights and if you can get them through entrapment the its just as good as any other means.
Innocent until proven guilty means nothing to you apparently
That has nothing to do with it though....
It has everything to do with it. If someone is accused of being a pedophile, they still have rights to privacy and everything until their crimes are proven in a court of law. If we didn’t have this protection, anyone could accuse anyone else of being a pedophile and just do whatever they want to them. I in no way support any criminal behavior surrounding pedophiles. I was a victim myself as a child. I want them all locked up. But you have to have limits to power like that even if it means letting some guilty people go.
Nobody's privacy is being infringed by the FBI collecting pedos at a pedo honeypot. If you get on the dark web looking for CSAM you're a goddamn pedo and no amount of stupid american "free speech" bullshit changes that. The fuck is wrong with you?
How bout THE FUCKING KIDS IN THE MATERIAL? They used that shit without any consent. And how many motherfuckers did they NOT catch while distributing this shit?
Well the whole "Kiddie fiddlers don't get rights" is where that comes in. See... I hate to say this, but much like Nazis, kiddie fiddlers get all the rights that you and I do. Where their rights end is where ours begin. They aren't allowed to break the law, they are allowed to exist and espouse whatever vile ideology they want to, as long as The Government isn't involved in attempting to censor them.
Private individuals and private companies are allowed to express their own "freedom of speech" however they want. This includes deplatforming them in the case of companies, or totally ignoring them all the way to punching them in the mouth for daring to speak such hatred in "civilized society." I am a bit of a punk though, and will absolutely violently tell fascists to "fuck off" exactly the way that The Dead Kennedy's, and all four of my grandparents taught me to. My grandparents all served in WWII. Both of my grandfathers killed faschists. Both of my grandmothers tended the wounded by faschists. They all agreed that, "The only good faschist is a dead faschist."
Punch them out every time you can get away with it. Ensure that they know they aren't welcome. We've forgotten to do that in recent years. This applies to fascists just as much as it does to any form of sexual predator.
The only time I used TOR mode in Brave was to do download some obscure old 32 bit iPhone IPA games which was an onion link
didnt the silk road guy use his IRL name for it somewhere and was bragging about it in someway, I remember reading that he didnt have any opsec at all
Oh shit I was not aware of that…also I found out that an fib agent was able to get in under the username “iceman”
They've gotten a number of people operating Tor sites through things like tracing crypto transactions and web hosting mistakes. One example I heard was a site that was hosted in Tor, but the images were hosted on a home server straight over the internet instead of through Tor.
If someone has a Microsoft defender HE IS the honeypot. MD can just hook into that browser and track them.
Basically a trap made to look tempting or valuable, ex: police run a site to buy illegal stuff for cheap to catch the people trying to buy it, like catching flies that want the honey
In this case if Tor Browser is a honeypot it means feds run the majority of nodes and would have a high chance of being able to easily identify users.
it means feds run the majority of nodes and would have a high chance of being able to easily identify users.
This is how you know it’s a honeypot now
Wouldnt someone need to be hosting a ton of exit nodes for that to work?
Yeah, and the FBI has been doing that for at least 7 years now, to catch some pretty disgusting criminals: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/fbi-running-darknet-child-port-sites-tor-malware/
If they are willing to do it to catch bad guys, who's stopping them from doing it to monitor good guys as well?
The outrage...
The outrage comes from the fact that the FBI had to literally distribute that kind of content in order to catch people, and it kind of borders on entrapment.
I don’t have any sympathy for these predators. I’m glad they got locked away. I just think the FBI is using unconstitutional means to do so
That's not my understanding of "entrapment". It needs to coerce somebody into something they otherwise would not do.
"Making available" illicit material is not coercive.
If I remember correctly, it was brought up in court but dismissed. So you’re right there.
Is the FBI gonna start giving away cocaine to try and catch dealers too?
Hmm 🤔🤔🤔
Nah fuck that.
Number 1 - the world exists outside the USA and a lot of those fuckers live there.
And Number 2 - kiddie fiddlers don't get rights and if you can get them through entrapment the its just as good as any other means.
Innocent until proven guilty means nothing to you apparently
That has nothing to do with it though....
It has everything to do with it. If someone is accused of being a pedophile, they still have rights to privacy and everything until their crimes are proven in a court of law. If we didn’t have this protection, anyone could accuse anyone else of being a pedophile and just do whatever they want to them. I in no way support any criminal behavior surrounding pedophiles. I was a victim myself as a child. I want them all locked up. But you have to have limits to power like that even if it means letting some guilty people go.
Nobody's privacy is being infringed by the FBI collecting pedos at a pedo honeypot. If you get on the dark web looking for CSAM you're a goddamn pedo and no amount of stupid american "free speech" bullshit changes that. The fuck is wrong with you?
How bout THE FUCKING KIDS IN THE MATERIAL? They used that shit without any consent. And how many motherfuckers did they NOT catch while distributing this shit?
Well the whole "Kiddie fiddlers don't get rights" is where that comes in. See... I hate to say this, but much like Nazis, kiddie fiddlers get all the rights that you and I do. Where their rights end is where ours begin. They aren't allowed to break the law, they are allowed to exist and espouse whatever vile ideology they want to, as long as The Government isn't involved in attempting to censor them.
Private individuals and private companies are allowed to express their own "freedom of speech" however they want. This includes deplatforming them in the case of companies, or totally ignoring them all the way to punching them in the mouth for daring to speak such hatred in "civilized society." I am a bit of a punk though, and will absolutely violently tell fascists to "fuck off" exactly the way that The Dead Kennedy's, and all four of my grandparents taught me to. My grandparents all served in WWII. Both of my grandfathers killed faschists. Both of my grandmothers tended the wounded by faschists. They all agreed that, "The only good faschist is a dead faschist."
Punch them out every time you can get away with it. Ensure that they know they aren't welcome. We've forgotten to do that in recent years. This applies to fascists just as much as it does to any form of sexual predator.
Thats why we use trusted bridges...
And that someone is called "The
SevenFive Eyes".Five Eyes Burgers and Files
How you think they got Silk Road?
The only time I used TOR mode in Brave was to do download some obscure old 32 bit iPhone IPA games which was an onion link
didnt the silk road guy use his IRL name for it somewhere and was bragging about it in someway, I remember reading that he didnt have any opsec at all
Oh shit I was not aware of that…also I found out that an fib agent was able to get in under the username “iceman”
They've gotten a number of people operating Tor sites through things like tracing crypto transactions and web hosting mistakes. One example I heard was a site that was hosted in Tor, but the images were hosted on a home server straight over the internet instead of through Tor.
If someone has a Microsoft defender HE IS the honeypot. MD can just hook into that browser and track them.
What's that?
Basically a trap made to look tempting or valuable, ex: police run a site to buy illegal stuff for cheap to catch the people trying to buy it, like catching flies that want the honey
In this case if Tor Browser is a honeypot it means feds run the majority of nodes and would have a high chance of being able to easily identify users.
Which is the case.