Gaza hospitals ceasing to function as water and fuel run out

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Gaza hospitals ceasing to function as water and fuel run out
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You recall that Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history, right?

You guys make me embarrassed to call myself a lefty.

Well gee, that sure does give Isreal the right to do ethnic cleansing. It's self defense after all so everything is permissible. /s

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Hamas doing something horrible doesn't make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza though, not everyone inside Gaza is Hamas

Speaking of, Hamas has over 1MM liters of fuel, and ample supplies of fresh water, that they refuse to distribute in Gaza. They also refuse to return hostages, which would also immediately lift the siege.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-gaza-photos-show-half-million-liters-of-fuel-held-by-hamas/

Edit to add:

The reason they stockpiled so much is their tunnel ventilation systems run on generators (which is also the reason Israel is trying to deny them fuel, because tunnel fighting is a nightmare and that's what is coming)

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-770123

Here's a great video with more info https://www.youtube.com/live/xfc0nHLgDuY?si=8P-MddAIFXsFt-mA

Terrible thing Hamas has done

Hamas doing something horrible doesnโ€™t make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza

Terrible thing Hamas is doing

It's not unreasonable to expect an enemy government to feed their people, rather than your country

Hamas doing something horrible doesnโ€™t make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza

I mean we can copy the same comments to another over and over all day if ya want.

I've got 3 hrs til my plane boards

FWIW I'd strongly support a heavily-militarized aid station set up in the south but you know as well as I do that people would still blame Israel for Hamas gunning down people headed south.

Down near the border crossing that Israel keeps bombing?

Yes. Hence "heavily militarized."

You seem to think this crossing is like, a single street. It is not. It's a misleading name the same way the "Palestinian refugees camps" are really modern cities of 100k people with permanent, concrete buildings the same as any other city.

Uh no I don't think that it's a street. How does anything you said even address the point i made that Israel keeps bombing the crossing?

Oh right it didn't.

Care to try again and actually address the point?

Or you can just talk about some unrelated shit and try to deflect once more.

Sometimes there are Hamas terrorists in places killing people and those people get bombs dropped on them. That's the "bombing the crossing" thing you're discussing.

Your assumption is that this means Israel is targeting civilians or that it is impossible to do this while providing aid in the same geographic area. This is easily proven false because aid trucks, foreign nationals, and lots of people are in those areas and are not dead - because those areas are large.

This makes me believe you are totally ignorant of how the geography actually works, which I am still convinced of.

A heavily militarized aid area would not be enterable by terrorists and thus is a safe haven for providing aid. This is why I think it should be a priority for Israel

Not sure why you're bringing the attitude when you're the one who doesn't understand the situation and is just parroting shit blindly.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/middleeast/satellite-images-gaza-destruction/index.html Fuck of with the not targeting civilians thing.

You can't level entire towns and call it targeted (though I'm sure you will try).

I understand the situation just fine.

I'm not the one who only chooses to look at half of it and act like their team is somehow not committing ethnic cleansing. You need to take a long look in the mirror bud. You are cheering on the monsters now.

Go simp for Israel elsewhere.

I understand the situation just fine.

Gonna press X to doubt on that one.

Iโ€™m not the one who only chooses to look at half of it and act like their team is somehow not committing ethnic cleansing

Lmao yes.

Go simp for Israel elsewhere

No.

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Bloodiest assault in history? You have to be joking.

Uhh yeah? This is the bloodiest attack Palestine has ever done against Israel. Are you stunned? ๐Ÿ˜‚

Forget the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians that Israel has killed. Those don't matter at all in the context of your very well thought out point.

Moved the goalposts and you're still wrong.

I'm demonstrably right though ๐Ÿ˜‚

Wrong and ratio'd

Being one of the only lefties with common sense, I get ratio'd quite often. But I don't need fake points from imaginary online friends to feel good about myself ๐Ÿ˜‚

"Everyone I meet is an asshole"

Aww you're even downvoting my comments ๐Ÿ˜‚

Wasn't me.

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