Ways of designing intimacy in games - GameDeveloper

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Most games unless it is a sex game shouldn't have sex in it. My kids play lot of the same games I do and I don't want them having access to sex in a game.

Most times it adds nothing to a story and is there just a preversion thing.

You allow them to murder hundreds of virtual people or creatures, but sex is a bridge too far?

Unironically yes. Pornography appeals to our monkey brain in a way that violence doesn't. Violence in media is just an expression of conflict.

Having sex is probably something you will do in your life, mass murder is not.

And just as hitting several hookers in downtown los Santos with a virtual bolide won't make you a deranged carkiller, being exposed to a booby won't make you a sex-driven pervert.

Having sex is probably something you will do in your life, mass murder is not.

I would say this exactly why one topic is more sensitive than the other. No one goes around killing aliens with ray guns, so there really isn't much to emulate there. Whereas sex appeals to our biology and on young impressionable children, it could have significant impact on them to be continuously exposed to it through media.

Um, have you seen how vicious chimpanzees are when they fight? Violence 100% is monkey brain.

bro thought he said something smart

Your kids shouldn't impact what artists choose to create, and parental controls and ratings systems exist for you to engage with (you probably should if you are scared of them seeing intimacy between grown adults)

It's sad that people think like this

Why is it sad? Some people want sex to be a private thing that individuals do outside of the public eye. Not everyone is a coomer who wants to revolve their life around sexuality. Just because people have different values than you doesn't make it sad.

It's sad that the commenter allows his children to go cyberpsycho on virtual bystanders but won't allow them to see a nipple.

There is a reason the game has an age restriction.

Continuous exposure to sexual content throughout childhood can have significant effect on their sexuality later in life. I don't think the same thing is true for shooting games.

It's the parent's job to control what their children consume

Sure but what does that have to do with what I said?

Lots of games are made for adults, and relatively few mainstream games have sex scenes at all. Many of the games with sex scenes have an option to disable those scenes and nudity. Practically all of them have an M rating with specific content descriptors on the box or store page, making it easy for parents to avoid it altogether. All modern game platforms also have parental controls that can be set up in a couple minutes.

All this is to say that if kids are seeing sex scenes in games, it’s because their parents have ignored all the warnings and options. For a parent to say that these types of games should not be made (as one of the above commenters did) for adults because they’re too lazy and feckless to use any of the options available to control and monitor the types of content their children consume, when it’s been made so easy, is disturbing. It’s especially disheartening to see it in a gaming community, from someone who presumably plays games themselves and therefore has absolutely no excuse to not know about the options available. I’m accustomed to hearing it from places like Fox News, but not here.

Continuous exposure to violent content throughout childhood does too.

Not to the same degree.

Not everyone is a coomer who wants to revolve their life around sexuality.

You can acknowledge that sex exists without someone's life revolving around it. Just like "wanting sex to be private" may not mean that someone is just terrified of the topic itself or thinks all sex is gross and should be avoided.

Just because people have different values than you doesn’t make it sad.

Some values become more of a target for criticism than others. "No one should make content that I don't personally approve of" is one that I would categorize as worthy of criticism.

“No one should make content that I don’t personally approve of” is one that I would categorize as worthy of criticism.

Who said no one can make content if it has sex in it? People are just saying they don't like it and everyone is sperging out about how children should see sexual content because they also see violence.

OP stated that only porn games should have any sexual content in them because his kids play video games.

She people aren't kids should see sexual content, but that's it's weird to be against any kind of sexual content but not be bothered by violence.

Sex is so much different than violence. Sexuality is something is developed over the life of a person and can be heavily influenced by early exposure. Where violence isn't spurred on by video games (unless you are one of the boomers complaining that video games cause violence) because shooting people isn't a part of normal life.

So, your opinion is that any and all violent content is never a concern, and is appropriate for any age, even small children?

I have to say, that is not an opinion I've seen too often.

So, your opinion is that any and all violent content is never a concern, and is appropriate for any age, even small children?

"So YoUr OpInIoN iS" shut up lol. I didn't say that. I just said violence is much different than sexuality, and thats reflective of how society treats the two topics in media.

You stated that they are different, that sex is something serious and concerning, and that worrying about violence is something boomers do.

If you didn't mean it to come of that way then I'm not sure why you worded it that way.

Sex is required for every human to exist. I'm sorry it scares you but you're kids are going to be fucking fine.

Akchually in-vitro fecundation is a thing.

This just means that penetrative sex with a penis is not required. Doctors can either inseminate people directly, or implant fertilized embryos.

But the only effective way to harvest sperm is through ejaculation. I.e. masturbation. So you're really not avoiding sex altogether. You're just going about it differently.

Do you consider masterbation sex? because uhh it isn't

Solo sex. It's definitely sexual at least.

Gamers say they want parents to actually get involved and monitor the content kids interact with in games. A parent actually does monitor what their kids play, and suddenly gamers lose their minds.

In this case, OP is stating that he thinks no company should be making games with any type of sexual content. Just in case his kids want to play that game.

That goes beyond "monitoring what their kids play" and that's why people are reacting strongly.

Do you recognize that some people may have different values than your own and it's ok for them to strive towards upholding them? You are not losing anything in life by not having pornographic scenes in video games.

Hi, it's good to understand the difference between pornography and narratives showing intimacy. Good day.

Lol. You're trying to censor an entire industry because the most natural human experience makes your nervous.

No, I just don't want needless sex in my games. I don't care to make it illegal or anything but I'm speaking out that I do not enjoy sexuality in video games and think if that's something people desire, they can find that sort of content elsewhere.

Or you can just look for games that don't have the "sex and nudity" tag and stop complaining?

Then play a game that doesn't have sex. You're like those people who want a difficulty slider in souls games. The game is not for you, my dude.

Kids that aren’t ready to see sex in games aren’t grown up enough to play those games to begin with. I don’t know any non-porn game with a nude sex scene in it that isn’t a violent murder simulator. Except maybe Sims but that isn’t even graphic and even kids just find that funny to see.

It is quite obvious this was posted by an American. They are such prudes when it comes to sex and nudity, but think violence is just swell.

Don't get into this if you don't want to get dogpiled by prudes. Lemmy is weirdly anti sex scenes.