Emotional outburst on live TV from Gaza over death of reporter encapsulates collective grief
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“No one is looking at us or the extent of this disaster or the crimes that we are experiencing in Gaza,” he said. Still holding his microphone, he slid off his flak jacket marked with the word PRESS and unstrapped his helmet.
“These protection jackets and helmets don't protect us,” he said, flinging the equipment to the ground. “Nothing protects journalists. ... We lose our lives for no reason.”
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Hamas should surrender so everything can end.
Hamas doesn't care if those civilians and journalists die anymore than probably Israel does. It goes to show how stupid this is because everyday Israel becomes more the murderer, more the oppressor, more the aggressor, more the monster. I'm sure Hamas leadership love it because they literally have to do nothing as proud Israel marches into the history books as the land hungry maniac butcher of the middle east. This is how a 9/11 works and you buffoons are out here trying to roast Hamas marshmallows on the smoldering corpses of women and children.
The trick is, if you destroy enough Palestinians and drive them from thier home ling enough, those people's kids will have no connection to Palestine/Gaza and little desire to go back. After time the situation would solve itself.
If you continue to let hamas rule Gaza and commit acts of terror then Israel will retaliate insuring the continuation of the current situation until.the end of time.
Racist says the "trick" is genocide. What a subpar troll
Or you know, the people.in Gaza can leave and not die. Not only.do they not have to die from Israel bombs but don't have to live under hamas rule
Sounds like a win win
What a sickening take.
It's THEIR LAND. Why are the only options "leave forever, or die?".
There wouldn't be a Hamas if Israel didn't stop murdering and stealing land they have no right to.
Between 2008 and 2020, 5,590 Palestinians have been murdered
Until Israel has all of the land, this won't stop. They continue to murder and maim for decades, and when a Hamas retaliation happens, well then "this is war".
Let's be clear about something. This was 'Christmas come early' for Israel, as Hamas laid out an attack that gave them a cart blanche to go all out on Palestine, ignoring all wartime rules, as they commit actual genocide, confirmed by Israeli Holocaust scholars: https://www.wrmea.org/israel-palestine/holocaust-scholars-say-israel-is-committing-genocide.html
The solution should always start with de-escalation. Everyone knows this. Cops are trained to do this. Why is nobody policing Israel? They can't even commit to saying what is going on in Israel is definitively Genocide.
It's funny since you posted all this shit just to agree with me that until Palestine in Gaza ceases to exist thus fighting will continue.
Racist troll finds genocide funny yet again. Top kek.
And yet you agreed. So I guess you are a racist troll
life must be tough for you being both racist AND stupid. I'm glad.
You should be an expert on it.
On you being stupid and racist? I mean, I have a cursory knowledge. Seems dumb to call me an expert though. Oh, forgot how stupid the racist I'm talking to is.
No one's agreeing with you. What's funny is that your reading comprehension sucks.
Until a murderous genocidal country, supported unconditionally by the most powerful nation in the world, doesn't stop bombing innocent civilians and murdering children, the civilians can't survive.
The solution isn't for the civilians to leave. It's for the genocidal Zionist fascists to be tried in criminal court and face up to their crimes, just like any other country in the world would be.
Yet neither Egypt nor Israel want to open their borders to Palestinian civilians. Where should they go?
Jordan or Lebanon.
Sure. People from Gaza simply warp through Israel then. Seems legit. /s
You jumped in to help the racist troll account? Why would you do that?
They should continue to try and leave through any port of entry.
Maybe we should be wondering why no other country wants them.
Sounds like it was a bad idea for the Gazans to put them in charge of their government. Maybe they should do something about that
They took power illegally years before the literal majority of Gaza citizens were even born.
Edit: My apologies, the ones that are almost legal adults would have been infants or toddlers at the time Hamas seized power. They really should have done something about that while they were learning how to walk and speak. /s
Okay, and? I'm sorry, my dude, but Hamas won the election before they illegally seized power, and it's not like the people of Gaza have tried to do anything about that. Who is supposed to do it for them?
Yeah, it sucks that sometimes the citizens of a nation pay the price for the actions of their leaders. But who else can change their leaders for them?
You're talking about a population with extremely limited resources that is literally 50% (or more) children that has been under two fascist boots for the last decade and a half. There does come a point where a level of desperation combined with a possibility of a better future will instigate a revolution, but right now? They don't see a possibility of a better future. With Israel's Likud on the other side of the wall and no resources to rebuild after a coup, what's the point in gambling everything on maybe being able to overthrow the more local oppression?
Also, education in Gaza is very inconsistent and most political revolutions are started by people with education and nothing to lose.
Okay? What, am I supposed to say that the people supporting genocidal lunatics aren't doing that because they have a shitload of kids? How does that change jack or shit?
Or do you think Israel shouldn't defend themselves because the people relentlessly attacking them have a bunch of children? What is the path towards Hamas no longer launching rockets and attacks at Israel?
How many kids did "those" genocidal lunatics kill?
Hundreds. One would be too many, as they are perpetrated by the official government of Gaza.
So how many is "too many" for Israel to have killed? Or do the citizens of Gaza not count the same way Israelis do?
Well, since Israel is the party which is defending itself, they have the right to go after Hamas. And since Hamas hides among civilians, if the civilians of Gaza get tired of falling victim to collateral damage, they should talk to Hamas about it.
That's not answering my question. How many Palestinian lives is too many?
That's a question only Hamas can answer
I think you are misunderstanding how the demographic shift in Gaza has happened. They didn't have a baby boom, it's just that many of them do not survive very far into adulthood because of violence, health and environmental problems, and, when they can manage it, emigration.
Secondarily, I'm interested to hear how you justify calling Hamas genocidal without making the same observation about the Likud and Netanyahu.
Dude they have been having a huge population boom for a long time. Population growth rate is 2% per year. PER YEAR.
Likud and Netanyahu are far right nationalists. In that sense, they're like Hamas. I am not a fan of them. The difference is what they're willing to do to promote the interests of their state. Netanyahu and Likud have lines they won't cross, Hamas doesn't. If Netanyahu was as deranged as Hamas, they'd nuke Gaza and just go in and slaughter the population. I am glad they have those lines.
The fact that Netanyahu has supported Hamas in the past as a foil to the PA says otherwise to me. To a certain extent, Israel has made its own monster out of Hamas and Gaza through their policies and positions.
There's some of that but at the end of the day, the people of Gaza and the leaders of Hamas are responsible for their own decisions.
Your right, perhaps we go punish the skeletons in North Korea next?
If North Korea starts a war, its people will bear the brunt. But that's a bad comparison - Hamas was elected.
Maybe tell that to the children (who are 2 out of every 5 murdered) who didn't even exist for this definitive election of yours. It's a fine comparison. It's been so long since either event that your blaming a currently suffering group for the mistakes of it's predecessors, and it rings just as gross and hollow. Why don't you tell me how women should dress so they don't get raped?
Idk man shit sucks sometimes, but the people of Palestine have agency, and the Gazans chose their government.
That's the best fucking joke I've heard in a long time. Gazans have zero control over their situation. Maybe it's telling that they elected Hamas, (almost 20 goddamn years ago when half their population wasn't even born yet, I might add) who they felt were the only option to get them out of apartheid.
Bombing the shit out of population is a great way to breed extremists, and it will continue to happen as long as the ethnic cleansing continues.
They had enough control to put Hamas in power and spend like two decades launching rockets at Israel
Did you read anything past the first sentence? I swear you guys are all illiterate.
Isreal famously never did anything to provoke those rockets. They definitely didn't spend the last 75 years systematically dispossessing Palestinians and subjecting them to extreme violence.
Facts don't serve their narrative well. That's why anti-intellectualism is so key to fascistic rhetoric.
I honestly can't tell if these people are racist, or just extremely misinformed and chirping about a topic that they have no education in.
I think a fair amount of it is people being surprised that reality doesn't match what they've been told. And that cognitive dissonance takes them time to work through. And it's much more comfortable to say that's not what war means, that's not what genocide means, that's not what ethnic cleansing means....
And of course they're surrounded in a media soup using obtuse language to give them the impression everything's fine.
I honestly expect most of these denial commenters don't have an investment either way in the conflict. They just have an idea of someone is right, and they put everything into that narrative scope. It takes time to build nuance.
I'm betting both.
Yeah sometimes when you start a war and lose, it sucks. Maybe the various Arab nations should have thought about that
Jesus Christ are you talking about 1948? You are actually talking out of your ass and have no idea what you're saying. Go read about the Nakba and come back.
1948 and all the other wars and intifadas started by Arabs intent on a genocidal pogrom
Lots of people should do lots of things to make the world better. I feel they're not going to, though.
Yeah. Hamas is the only group which can really end this, though. Israel ending it involves a lot of dead people. They're not going to stop until Hamas cannot make war any longer, and I can't blame them.
The world and history will blame them. Nobody, not a single soul, is concerned with where you cast the blame.
Yes, yes, of course, it's all the fault of the defenders
How far into someone else's lands are these "defenders"?
A few miles. Gotta reach the rocket sites somehow. Or do you think they should just sit there and do nothing while genocidal lunatics lob rockets at civilians
How many people in Israel those rockets kill again since the 7th?
It doesn't matter. A defense is a defense. You can't be stupid enough to seriously think they should just sit there and accept being under constant attack because the attacks aren't very effective.
It does matter, that is the basis of proportionate response. A defense is an offensive when you leave your borders. These things matter, even if you don't care to believe so. Just like civilian deaths matter, no matter whose side is doing the killing. But 4000 kids dead and your still griping about what a raw deal Israel got. How broken can your mind be?
Proportionate response only works when anyone in Gaza cares about proportions. Hamas is on record being willing to sacrifice their entire population in their quest to kill as many Jews as possible. I don't think this war they started is going to end until their capacity to make war is ended.
Fuck around, find out. This is the find out stage.
Oh, also, the numbers on civilian casualties in Gaza are sourced from Hamas. So, they're worth about as much as used toilet paper lmfao
Apparently it can be that broken.
Shame.
Farewell ghoul! Haunt this fediverse no more!
Lmao I'm not going anywhere. Be mad
Yeah. Hamas is the only group which can really end this, though. Israel ending it involves a lot of dead people. They're not going to stop until Hamas cannot make war any longer, and I can't blame them.