i think the same can be said to the whiner making a 4 hour video about shit that doesn't affect anyone.
Sounds like someone was told they couldn't use wikipedia as a source word for word in high school and never got over it. The less parrots we have saying shit they don't understand to get recognition other people worked for the better. If a four hour video is too long for you, maybe break it down into chunks or use any other time management skill. Or don't watch it still, but you're making the case that you have no attention span and say mean things about content you've never interacted with for jollies.
I think the same can be said to the whiner making angry comments on Lemmy because someone made a 4 hour video he doesn't want to watch.
what makes you think i didn't watch it?
Because you're saying it doesn't affect anyone when it affects a lot of people! Someone was making lots of money out of other's work.
No need to be so negative, stranger. Why don't we stop party popping and try to make the internet nicer?
Why don’t we stop party popping and try to make the internet nicer?
i'm all for being nice, but the 4 hours of snark ain't it. how many parties did hbomberguy just poop?
Someone was making lots of money out of other's work
i don't think this matters. at all. humans share stories and songs and recipes and jokes and tools. the people being "affected" weren't bringing their stories to the audiences the plagiarists were.
You either have a very concerning lack of empathy or aren't even trying, internet stranger. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but if you are saying that is okay to take credit from someone else's work because otherwise people wouldn't have access, that's very weird!! Its like there isn't a better way like saying where you got your stuff. I hope you're not assuming that you know better and won't expose yourself yo new knowledge but there are a lot of vulnerable people that are more at risk of having their work stolen. There's also another video from Philosophy Tube that talks about this. I highly recommend it. :)
i am of the opinion that plagiarism is a total non-issue. serial plagiarists, eventually, are caught. whether by becoming too prolific and having their "work" discovered by the source from which they are plagiarizing, or by virtue of the fact that there is, genuinely, a limited amount of material from which one can plagiarize, and, so, they cannot actually keep up their publishing until others do the work for them. and once they're caught, it's almost impossible to repair that reputation, and the people from whom they plagiarized may end up getting even more exposure in the fallout of the scandal.
BUT that's only one mole-hill-sized mountain i found in this "video essay". his whole aside about melania's speech writers plagiarizing michelle obama's speech writers does no damage to anyone at all. it's silly drama. the way he whines about people actually DOING the bare minimum research and going to the wikipedia sources is also silly: even though many people (or bots) copy-and-pasted those individual links, the work of reading them well enough to include them usefully in a video is a genuine service.
and all of this sort of talks around my initial point above: the whole point of culture is to share it. the people harassed by the plagiarists' fans are victims, but only of harassment, in my estimation. they can't believe that having their name appear on screen in these videos made by (let's be honest) intellectual lightweights would have added to either their own gravitas or their financial well-being.
there is honestly no circumstance in which you are going to convince me that anyone should be compelled to say anything, even the name of the person who told them something verbatim. and leaving out that name can vary in it's acceptability from maybe-a-little-rude to lifesaving (consider confidential newspaper sources).
If you had watched the video, you’d know that it actually discusses how translating media from one format to another has merit given it is properly cited (or permission is given for adaptions).
Your opinion is morally wrong and it doesn’t matter how many words you use to try to explain it away 🙃
If you had watched the video, you’d know that it actually discusses
yea. and I disagree with the analysis. what's with everyone assuming I didn't watch it?
ok. you must be right: your use of emojis is devastating.
properly cited (or permission is given for adaptions).
I don't need to cite anyone, and you won't compell my speech. I don't need permission to share information.
You would say this directly to Brian Deer's face?
"Sorry, no one cares that people keep pilfering you for content."
why not? the worst fate that can befall an author is not that someone might steal their work, but that no one will want to.
it's a fucking compliment.
Stealing work for money is good, actually, says user named commie.
Jackass.
Stealing work for money is good, actually,
this is astrawman. I didn't and would never say this. but that's at least partially because I would never call plagiarism "stealing"
calling me names doesn't change whether this is a moral issue: it's not. it's an academic issue.
Academia being perfectly amoral?
This is people's livelihoods. That's covered in the video you implied you watched. You fucking liar.
It's also resulted directly in harassment of people who did all of the work, because of course these thieving bastards will cry crocodile tears and send their manipulated fans after the big meanies accusing them of demonstrably accurate shit.
It’s also resulted directly in harassment of people who did all of the work, because of course these thieving bastards will cry crocodile tears and send their manipulated fans after the big meanies accusing them of demonstrably accurate shit.
and that's bad. but it's not an issue of plagiarism, it's an altogether separate problem.
You fucking liar.
when you apologize for your insult and incivility, I'll be happy to keep explaining what a non-issue roughly 80% of this was.
'I'll demonstrate bare-minimum awareness when you stop highlighting my blatant ignorance.'
Either you care or you don't.
You obviously don't.
This is people’s livelihoods.
I don't see where anyone has lost money, except the plagiarists who removed videos or got fired.
That's still covered in the video you lied about watching, no matter who you go tattling to when someone points it out. You wanna know? Go find out. You wanna pretend you know, then demand someone explain it to you? Sit and spin.
It's covered in the video you implied you watch. You functionally illiterate fucking liar.
Shhhh. Let people enjoy things.
i think the same can be said to the whiner making a 4 hour video about shit that doesn't affect anyone.
Sounds like someone was told they couldn't use wikipedia as a source word for word in high school and never got over it. The less parrots we have saying shit they don't understand to get recognition other people worked for the better. If a four hour video is too long for you, maybe break it down into chunks or use any other time management skill. Or don't watch it still, but you're making the case that you have no attention span and say mean things about content you've never interacted with for jollies.
I think the same can be said to the whiner making angry comments on Lemmy because someone made a 4 hour video he doesn't want to watch.
what makes you think i didn't watch it?
Because you're saying it doesn't affect anyone when it affects a lot of people! Someone was making lots of money out of other's work.
No need to be so negative, stranger. Why don't we stop party popping and try to make the internet nicer?
i'm all for being nice, but the 4 hours of snark ain't it. how many parties did hbomberguy just poop?
i don't think this matters. at all. humans share stories and songs and recipes and jokes and tools. the people being "affected" weren't bringing their stories to the audiences the plagiarists were.
You either have a very concerning lack of empathy or aren't even trying, internet stranger. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but if you are saying that is okay to take credit from someone else's work because otherwise people wouldn't have access, that's very weird!! Its like there isn't a better way like saying where you got your stuff. I hope you're not assuming that you know better and won't expose yourself yo new knowledge but there are a lot of vulnerable people that are more at risk of having their work stolen. There's also another video from Philosophy Tube that talks about this. I highly recommend it. :)
i am of the opinion that plagiarism is a total non-issue. serial plagiarists, eventually, are caught. whether by becoming too prolific and having their "work" discovered by the source from which they are plagiarizing, or by virtue of the fact that there is, genuinely, a limited amount of material from which one can plagiarize, and, so, they cannot actually keep up their publishing until others do the work for them. and once they're caught, it's almost impossible to repair that reputation, and the people from whom they plagiarized may end up getting even more exposure in the fallout of the scandal.
BUT that's only one mole-hill-sized mountain i found in this "video essay". his whole aside about melania's speech writers plagiarizing michelle obama's speech writers does no damage to anyone at all. it's silly drama. the way he whines about people actually DOING the bare minimum research and going to the wikipedia sources is also silly: even though many people (or bots) copy-and-pasted those individual links, the work of reading them well enough to include them usefully in a video is a genuine service.
and all of this sort of talks around my initial point above: the whole point of culture is to share it. the people harassed by the plagiarists' fans are victims, but only of harassment, in my estimation. they can't believe that having their name appear on screen in these videos made by (let's be honest) intellectual lightweights would have added to either their own gravitas or their financial well-being.
there is honestly no circumstance in which you are going to convince me that anyone should be compelled to say anything, even the name of the person who told them something verbatim. and leaving out that name can vary in it's acceptability from maybe-a-little-rude to lifesaving (consider confidential newspaper sources).
If you had watched the video, you’d know that it actually discusses how translating media from one format to another has merit given it is properly cited (or permission is given for adaptions).
Your opinion is morally wrong and it doesn’t matter how many words you use to try to explain it away 🙃
yea. and I disagree with the analysis. what's with everyone assuming I didn't watch it?
ok. you must be right: your use of emojis is devastating.
I don't need to cite anyone, and you won't compell my speech. I don't need permission to share information.
You would say this directly to Brian Deer's face?
"Sorry, no one cares that people keep pilfering you for content."
why not? the worst fate that can befall an author is not that someone might steal their work, but that no one will want to.
it's a fucking compliment.
Stealing work for money is good, actually, says user named commie.
Jackass.
this is astrawman. I didn't and would never say this. but that's at least partially because I would never call plagiarism "stealing"
calling me names doesn't change whether this is a moral issue: it's not. it's an academic issue.
Academia being perfectly amoral?
This is people's livelihoods. That's covered in the video you implied you watched. You fucking liar.
It's also resulted directly in harassment of people who did all of the work, because of course these thieving bastards will cry crocodile tears and send their manipulated fans after the big meanies accusing them of demonstrably accurate shit.
and that's bad. but it's not an issue of plagiarism, it's an altogether separate problem.
when you apologize for your insult and incivility, I'll be happy to keep explaining what a non-issue roughly 80% of this was.
'I'll demonstrate bare-minimum awareness when you stop highlighting my blatant ignorance.'
Either you care or you don't.
You obviously don't.
I don't see where anyone has lost money, except the plagiarists who removed videos or got fired.
That's still covered in the video you lied about watching, no matter who you go tattling to when someone points it out. You wanna know? Go find out. You wanna pretend you know, then demand someone explain it to you? Sit and spin.
It's covered in the video you implied you watch. You functionally illiterate fucking liar.