I think it's important to call most of these stories what they are. They're not toxic masculinity, they're homophobia, in the most literal sense of the word.
Edited for clarity
Who are you responding to?
The thread in general. After reading a bunch of the stories, it occurred to me that they are all homophobic. Men engaging in certain behaviors, or avoiding behaviors and activities to avoid being perceived as gay are homophobic. You make a good point though, I edited my response to make it more clear.
I think it's very much related. Avoid being percieved as gay could be related to gender as well as the set of stereotypical behaviours that are associated with gays. And it could be both.
I think it's that doing something that's conceived as "feminine" being gay - say for example caring for your looks. I think the homophobia (and sexism) is an afterthought and the root is toxic masculinity
being attracted to a man is obviously a feminine trait. and we hate everything feminine, did i tell you i hate the woman i confessed my love to and have been married to for 30 years?
I think it's important to call most of these stories what they are. They're not toxic masculinity, they're homophobia, in the most literal sense of the word.
Edited for clarity
Who are you responding to?
The thread in general. After reading a bunch of the stories, it occurred to me that they are all homophobic. Men engaging in certain behaviors, or avoiding behaviors and activities to avoid being perceived as gay are homophobic. You make a good point though, I edited my response to make it more clear.
I think it's very much related. Avoid being percieved as gay could be related to gender as well as the set of stereotypical behaviours that are associated with gays. And it could be both.
I think it's that doing something that's conceived as "feminine" being gay - say for example caring for your looks. I think the homophobia (and sexism) is an afterthought and the root is toxic masculinity
being attracted to a man is obviously a feminine trait. and we hate everything feminine, did i tell you i hate the woman i confessed my love to and have been married to for 30 years?
/s
Yeah well let's be honest a lot of toxic masculinity traits are deeply rooted in homophobia and sexism...
You'd think someone obsessed with masculinity would realize there's nothing manlier than two dudes fucking.
The venn diagram of toxic masculinity and homophobia is pretty much a circle.
Edit: fixing my dumbass phone’s autocorrect.