Aliens decide to communicate with us

IninewCrow@lemmy.ca to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 311 points –

Aliens want to communicate and they decide to use you and your personality as the base model for all humans. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

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Well as someone with ADHD, depression, and anxiety, as well as being on the spectrum, initially we'd be kinda screwed. I have spent a lot of time in therapy and have done a lot to manage it all, as well as developing empathy for myself and others, so not so bad.

However, I choose to be a non-theistic Satanist and an anarchist, so a lot of other people are going to be fucked. Especially those that deserve no empathy due to their hoarding of resources and exploitation of people and the planet.

Could you elaborate on the Satanist part? It's the first time I encounter that specific term.

I met a member. And he explained to me that they are pretty much atheists but from the point of the law they enjoy religious protections.

Basically if you call yourself atheist, you won't get any religious protections, because you don't have any religion. Everyone knows that FSM is a joke, so that wouldn't fly either. So they created a religion. They chose Satan, to get expected reaction from devoted Christians, they don't believe in Satan though (unlike wackos from the Church of Satan). You can read their 7 tenets, which sound quite reasonable: https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets

This is actually really reasonable. What are the “religious protections” you speak of?

Things that you normally don't think about. For example if you tried to get a job and the owner refused to hire you, because you don't believe in his religion, you can sue that they are discriminating. If you are atheist, that won't work, because you don't have a religion.

If a certain group claims to be offended by something, because it affects their religion, atheists have no say, because they have no religion.

There's no tax exemptions, money that might be directed to religious institutions won't go to atheist organizations, because again that's not a religion and so on.

As for the other commenter's, about putting Capitol displays and after school programs is meant to emphasize separation of church and state and religion in schools. The "abortion rituals" are for fighting recent SCOTUS ruling, that it apparently infringes their religious freedoms and prevents practicing their religion (kind of contra to Christians imposing their beliefs on others). Though, with current SCOTUS and states that are banning abortion, I don't know if it does much.

They put cool shit up in state capitols (see: snaketivity), have "after school satan" clubs, abortion rituals. All sorts of shit to use the cover of religion to assert freedoms.

That sounds amazing

It's a pretty legit movement. I have met some more 'witchy' types that take it too seriously, but meh. Not hurting anyone so who cares.

Ummm... doesn't that contradict what satanism is all about?

That's because they don't believe Satan or dark magic exists.

All religion is as meaningless as the meaning we attach to any word.

U.S. Christian Nationalists are engaged in a campaign of legal and political efforts to change U.S. law and public policy in such a way that it removes divisions between public policy and religious doctrine, or uses public money for Christian causes. The Temple of Satan was (at least partially) founded to combat those efforts and to set people free by spreading knowledge. They do this by subverting the laws that privilege Christians (religious holiday displays, religious after school clubs, etc); by working to shine a light on what Christian’s are doing while offering a community and guidelines for moral living without fear of gods concocted by prehistoric man. In many of their materials, they allude to being the snake in the garden of Eden, whose only crime was sharing information with Eve. In the one bit of research I did for this comment, I also learned that satan is just the Hebrew word for “accuser” - and originally they just pointed out how dumb some things were.

Contextually, the Temple of Satan name is honestly probably more relevant to them than Christian is to U.S. Jesus worshippers.

What do you think Satanism is about? I model my behavior on a rational, scientific, and humanistic worldview and I fight against superstition. One of the predominant superstitious organisations in my country have a mythical being that espouses all of these same traits and they call it Satan. It's convenient for us to refer to ourselves using their own language, so they instantly know we are against anti-humanism and superstitious oppression.

My point was, maybe they should call it Paganism or something like that. Satanism doesn't really bring much to the table (as a term) IMO.

That's fair. If you decide you want to identify your religion as Pagan, you are free to do so. It is much less fitting for our beliefs, tenets, and morals than Satanism, but may be a better fit for your beliefs.

Bro. You don't think that having to label a "rational, scientific, humanistic worldview that fights against superstition and ignorance" as SATANIC makes a point?

You gotta remember the Satanic church started in like the 50s or 60s in the USA when the tone of the country was even more overtly religulous than it is now. It's an aggressive reaction to craven stupidity. Murica, don't tread on me, that sort of thing.

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I'll gladly take aliens trying to cure me of an ADHD and depression i don't have if they can also cure us of religions and capitalism.

More importantly you going to therapy and improving yourself the way you described it, that in itself is sincerely the best exemple we can show an alien, ever.

Intergalactic Therapy Industrial Complex rubbing their hands

Well yes please, fix us.

Although i doubt we have anything worthy of hand rubbing for them. But hey, at least we're making jobs!

Seems i am going to be just fine after all.

Seriously though how did you write something so personal and yet described my life so well.

Like the only difference is that you are a non theist satanist anarchist. While i am an agnostic spiritual anarchist having Jesus (but not god) as an example of a good.

I like that it takes becoming satanic to develop a civilized view of the world. Rather I like how completely we have twisted the world with TOTAL BULLSHIT that people feel the need to claim a force for ultimate evil is what makes them want to make the world a fairer, less shitty place.

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