Kenneth Smith ‘struggled for life’ for 22 minutes in Alabama nitrogen gas execution: Updates

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“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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His victim died far more painfully if that helps.

Justice isn't revenge.

Justice is giving what's owed. And that's a great thing to argue about: What did he owe? To the family, the victim, and society. The question would be easy if taking his life restored the life of the woman he murdered. But that's not possible. However I have seen arguments that would require his death so organs could be harvested to save the life of others who would otherwise die. I'm not comfortable with that but do think that debate needs to happen.

Are you fucking mad? You want to give the state an incentive to murder prisoners? What the fuck is wrong with you?

ALL COPS ARE BAD

I think we need to have the debate. If you murder someone, do you owe your life if it can save the life of another?

As a transplant recipient who is now listed for a second transplant.

Nobody wants the state to murder people to increase the supply of organs.

Stop couching your vengeance fantasies in altruism.

I read “autism” and thought, “holy shit, what did I miss?”

My brain is broken haha.

I hope you get your next transplant soon and everything goes well. Take care.

I think we need to have the debate.

Humans LONG before you had the debate already. Pick up a history book, please! You are not a unique snowflake with concepts this earth has never before thought about. Everything that rattles around in the paint-can on your neck has been debated for generations.

Find a major US newspaper who had addressed the debate any time in the past generation.

Are you only capable of reading newspapers?

If it is a public debate it'll be in the news. Private debates are like this. They may show up somewhere on the internet but nobody cares and it isn't represented in the public consciousness.

I'll amend: are you only capable of reading newspapers and online forums?

If you can't be bothered to read a book then you really can't be helped.

I’m sorry, people are justifying the death penalty by fucking harvesting organs?

These are some serious dumbshits who don’t think two syllables past what they are saying.

First of all, there’s the obvious ethical dilemma of sentencing someone to death because someone important needs a kidney and they happen to have the same rare blood type. You just know that’s bound to happen eventually, and you know it’ll be covered up. More than likely it’d be some trumped up charge against a black inmate who already had a life sentence and no means for recourse.

Second, the majority of murderers are criminals. And a lot of criminals have a history of drug abuse, alcoholism, and other risk factors for communicable disease and excessive wear on their organs. 99% of the organs to come out of this mill would be totally useless. No surgeon in the world would touch them with a 15ft forceps.

God it’s make more sense to auction off their organs as trophies and give the proceeds to reputable charities. I’d pay good money to have a serial rapists balls in a jar on my mantle. Thats a hell of a conversation piece.

Logical argument don’t work around here. These kids need to be outraged and there’s no stopping them.

"Logical"

For a sociopath maybe.

Good thing most of us live in a developed nation where we don't try to take an eye for an eye, since that makes the whole world go blind. You can never be 100% certain they aren't innocent.

It does not. We are not animals.

We are, in fact, animals. You need to dial back your notions of personal divinity.