I wish democrats would make moving to places like Montana, the Dakotas and Wyoming a priority
Who's going to give up their entire quality of life to be a small snowflake hoping to make an avalanche? For the politics, it's a very small contribution. But for the family, it's huge. You'd be losing job prospects, friends and family, activity availability, local politics, healthcare quality and access, and most importantly: being treated like a person if you aren't a right-wing cishet white male of means.
Almost no one's going to take that trade and they shouldn't.
Why would we want to live in a shithole state like that?
The idea is to move there in enough numbers to overwhelm the GOP majority and make the state not be a shithole anymore.
Yeah, it's hard enough to get blue voters to stay in those red shitholes. Why would any sane person who already lives in a blue state want to move to a red one?
Have you done this? A few people suggesting people uproot their lives and ruin their QOL to maybe make a dent that a single GOP law could thwart.
Never said I have done it or even endorse it, just explaining the concept since OP seemed to not understand the theory behind it.
The cost of living in my "red state" is much lower than most places in "blue states" so I'll be staying here and enjoying my financial well-being even though I'm not a Trumptard. While I don't enjoy seeing rednecks everywhere showing off their dumb opinions, I still enjoy having money more than I don't like that other stuff.
I've said before, and ill say it again. For myself, I'd rather be poor in a place that respects human rights, instead of rich in a place that shits on them.
Sounds mighty principled of you. As for me, I've spent enough of my years in poverty already, so now that I'm out of it I'm pretty content with my situation.
It’s not principled. Some people just read history. Money only means safety when equal, stable, rights (ownership is a right) are enforced by the state. Not trying to change your mind, just be careful. The people you think are being “principled” may see threats you don’t.
Montana and Wyoming are among the most beautiful places on earth. Not sure why the Dakotas were included....
If you bring enough people with you, it wouldn't be a shithole state.
You'd have to bring a whole city. What I'd be losing moving from D.C. to Wyoming is not fixable by bringing a few friends. Museums? Enough population that shows and bands play there regularly?
Also, who can actually convince friends and family to move themselves across the country to a shithole for politics? Have you done that?
Isn't Montana pretty chill lately? My memory was they passed some pretty sensible stuff in the last few months.
You're probably thinking of Michigan.
But don't I have to be a republican to like guns, hunting, and outdoorsy stuff?
As a progressive person who likes fishing and doesn't put up with bigotry, it is very challenging to find fishing buddies.
You don't have to enjoy any of that to move there. If you bring your liberal community with you, you can just keep doing what you enjoy, just in a significantly cheaper state.
bring your liberal community with you
Is that easy to do?
I think more Democrats moving to swing states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina would be higher priority if people are free to move wherever purely based on political reasons.
You mean lefties. Democrats are neoliberal assholes. And I'm still not moving to some red shithole.
I wish democrats would make moving to places like Montana, the Dakotas and Wyoming a priority
Who's going to give up their entire quality of life to be a small snowflake hoping to make an avalanche? For the politics, it's a very small contribution. But for the family, it's huge. You'd be losing job prospects, friends and family, activity availability, local politics, healthcare quality and access, and most importantly: being treated like a person if you aren't a right-wing cishet white male of means.
Almost no one's going to take that trade and they shouldn't.
Why would we want to live in a shithole state like that?
The idea is to move there in enough numbers to overwhelm the GOP majority and make the state not be a shithole anymore.
Yeah, it's hard enough to get blue voters to stay in those red shitholes. Why would any sane person who already lives in a blue state want to move to a red one?
Have you done this? A few people suggesting people uproot their lives and ruin their QOL to maybe make a dent that a single GOP law could thwart.
Never said I have done it or even endorse it, just explaining the concept since OP seemed to not understand the theory behind it.
The cost of living in my "red state" is much lower than most places in "blue states" so I'll be staying here and enjoying my financial well-being even though I'm not a Trumptard. While I don't enjoy seeing rednecks everywhere showing off their dumb opinions, I still enjoy having money more than I don't like that other stuff.
I've said before, and ill say it again. For myself, I'd rather be poor in a place that respects human rights, instead of rich in a place that shits on them.
Sounds mighty principled of you. As for me, I've spent enough of my years in poverty already, so now that I'm out of it I'm pretty content with my situation.
It’s not principled. Some people just read history. Money only means safety when equal, stable, rights (ownership is a right) are enforced by the state. Not trying to change your mind, just be careful. The people you think are being “principled” may see threats you don’t.
Montana and Wyoming are among the most beautiful places on earth. Not sure why the Dakotas were included....
If you bring enough people with you, it wouldn't be a shithole state.
You'd have to bring a whole city. What I'd be losing moving from D.C. to Wyoming is not fixable by bringing a few friends. Museums? Enough population that shows and bands play there regularly?
Also, who can actually convince friends and family to move themselves across the country to a shithole for politics? Have you done that?
Isn't Montana pretty chill lately? My memory was they passed some pretty sensible stuff in the last few months.
You're probably thinking of Michigan.
But don't I have to be a republican to like guns, hunting, and outdoorsy stuff?
As a progressive person who likes fishing and doesn't put up with bigotry, it is very challenging to find fishing buddies.
You don't have to enjoy any of that to move there. If you bring your liberal community with you, you can just keep doing what you enjoy, just in a significantly cheaper state.
Is that easy to do?
I think more Democrats moving to swing states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina would be higher priority if people are free to move wherever purely based on political reasons.
You mean lefties. Democrats are neoliberal assholes. And I'm still not moving to some red shithole.