Poll: Nearly 70 percent of voters say Biden is too old to serve again
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It's definitely an issue that's not going away. The DNC really needs to figure it out and stop pretending that it doesn't matter to voters.
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Thank you. I've been trying to get this message across. Any vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote in favor of fascism and ushers in our first dictator which likely won't be trump, it will be whoever takes over when he has a heart attack or something.
Feel free to vote for whoever you want in the primary, that includes writing in your pet if you feel like it. In the big show, anyone who actually likes our freedom and democracy (with its myriad of flaws) will vote Biden, everyone else will vote for dictatorship even if it doesn't look like it in the moment.
If the DNC is so concerned about protecting democracy from fascism, then they need to instruct Biden to step down immediately and stop wasting time before tapping his replacement.
Biden’s approval rating is in the gutter. No incumbent in federal office has ever come back to win with such a disastrously low approval rating, not once in the history of USA. You’re telling me Biden is the one who will buck the norm and mount a miraculous comeback? If you really think this, then it appears Blue MAGA is real after all. Get a clue, Jack.
> Any vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote in favor of fascism
a vote for Biden is a vote for fascism, but a vote for Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote against fascism.
West is going to need to get on the ballot in more states than just Alaska and Oregon if that's going to happen. LOL.
In the end, it will be West at 1 to 2% of the vote and Stein at 5 to 6% of the vote, same as usual for fringe candidates.
can't talk down passing that 5% threshold. it's a big deal
It's insignificant in a national election.
you might think it's insignificant, but the people round here have their hair on fire at the suggestion anyone but biden gets 100% of the vote
Nobody will ever get 100% of the vote, last time it was 51.3% Biden, 46.8% Trump, 1.9% "Other".
I could see Biden picking up a few points thanks to the Roe V. Wade issue. They need to hang that around Trump's neck like a fucking albatross.
But the question is, can Biden win in the RIGHT states? That's still up in the air. Winning the popular vote is meaningless.
Pennsylvania - Trump is up +2 to +5 depending on other candidates.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/
Michigan - Trump +4 to +5.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/
Wisconsin - Trump +2 to +4.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/
Biden cannot win without Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
it's the threshold to get federal funding and access to the debates. it's a really big deal.
Yeah, and how well did that work out for Jill Stein after 2016?
Pro-tip - it did nothing.
The debates are controlled jointly by the DNC and the RNC. They aren't going to allow contrary opinions.
The only way this changes is if the Debates are taken away from the parties and turned back over to an independent organization like it used to be before 1988.
Even then, the League was only in charge from 1976 to 1987. Prior to their involvement there had not been a debate since Nixon/Kennedy in 1960(!)
https://www.lwv.org/league-women-voters-and-candidate-debates-changing-relationship
The reason being, primarily, that anyone watching television saw Nixon as being a sweaty weasel who lost the debate, but anyone listening to radio assumed Nixon was a strong arguer who won the debate.
https://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/history/debate/kennedynixon/kennedynixonscholarly.html
pro-tip, if you don't know something, you can just not-speak about it.
seems like you don't know how a party qualifies for federal elections funding.
I've only been actively engaged in politics since 1988... psssh, yeah, what do I know?
she hasn't gotten it before. this is the year
LOL Keep telling yourself that... Think this will be the year of the Linux desktop too? ;)
yea. she says she's on track to hit the mark this year.
Wait until the convention. The DNC will pick his replacement.
You need to go to bed and let the adults talk.
Liberals in their smug arrogance love to infantilize.
It’s not infantilizing. It’s just calling things as they appear. Children are well known for talking about things they know nothing about.
Also… this isn’t a “liberal” thing. It’s what people commonly resort to when they talk to immature randoms on the internet. If you want to be spoken to with respect and maturity, try not acting like a child when you’re corrected.
Ozma's opinion is that of the optimistic juvenile. They're absolutely wrong, but it's going to take them one or more failed election cycles to learn that. It's OK to be optimistic, the realism will creep in later.
Yeah, this guy that first started voting during the Reagan years know that this approach is not wrong. What's juvenile is doing the same thing repeatedly election after election after election expecting different results from the exact same people that fucked us over the last time because of some big boogie man that they have sold you. 50 years of the supposed lesser evil has grown so enormous they don't even recognize what is evil any longer. Where they can witness the guy they support committing a genocide halfway around the world and they believe that the other guy is more dangerous. And claim that he is completely defenseless to prevent these deaths. If the exact same circumstances were happening with Trump in office, every single liberal in this country would be in an uproar and demand that he bring it to a stop insisting he has the power and the ability to bring it to a stop. But now claim that Biden is powerless.
Even if Biden were committing genocide in Gaza, which let's be 100% clear here, he is not.
Trump is not functionally different when it comes to Israeli policy and for the same reason... both Biden AND Trump want those fat, fat Israel PAC campaign contributions.
Where they differ is that Trump wants to bring the worst Israeli policies HERE.
Remember when Israel illegally invaded Lebanon to set up a "security zone"?
https://www.britannica.com/event/2006-Lebanon-War
Yeah, about that... Trump would do the same to Mexico.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/
Oh, and... he'd jail his political opponents...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/trump-interview-jail-political-opponents-glenn-beck
and... he admits to wanting to be a dictator...
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
If you're legitimately serious about avoiding genocidal policies, your ONLY choice is to vote for Biden, because a Trump win will bring those policies here.
There is literally no comparison between Trump and Biden.
You mean like the 5 cop cities currently in the planning or building stage around the US that uses IDF for training? If we need to vote for the guy thats enabling a genocide so we dont get more genocide, thats an admission Biden is right wing.
One of the few promises Biden has kept is nothing will fundamentally change. Ive been around the block a few times and have seen this political song and dance several times. The only difference now is Trump is saying the quiet things out loud, exposing politics for the corruption thats its built on.
I don't know which other four you're talking about, but Atlanta's Cop City has been in the works since before Biden was elected and (as near as I can tell) has nothing to do with the IDF.
Frankly, the cops are bad enough without IDF help:
https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY
Best 33 minutes you can spend today. I know it's a long watch, stick with it until you get to the bit on "Warrior Training".
You better HOPE they replace Biden at the convention if you really want to defeat Trump.
Seriously. Go sit in the corner and eat your paste, the adults are talking.
Don't cry to me when Dems lose then.
You're still not big enough to sit at the big table.
You're a child with a naive view and understanding of the world. You clearly have no idea what fascism actually is and you probably call your mother a nazi for telling you to take a shower or go to bed.
There is literally no one else that could gain enough support and name recognition to beat trump and the maggats hate fueled campaign combined with their gerrymandering.
One day you will grow up and see the world for what it really is and learn how to work with the systems we have instead of flailing around outside the system and never making a real difference. Hopefully that will happen before you retire in like 50 years.
Nothing will happen at the Democratic convention unless Trump is removed during the Republican convention a month earlier.
Biden is the de facto head of the Democratic party. He's not going anywhere unless he chooses to.
This is correct. If Biden “wins the primary”, then immediately steps down, it becomes a battle for delegates at the convention. Of course the invisible hand of the DNC will actually choose, but it will at least have the surface level appearance of a democratic process.
It will? The democrats already disenfranchised an entire state, but no one cares about that.
Which state would that be? The one that still held a primary and wrote him in?
Yep. Delaware had it's delegates removed from the convention.
Yup