I hear you but we can still celebrate progress. It's really disheartening if you shit on every time somebody does something in the positive direction
Seriously, a big thing I've noticed here is that the general vibe of Lemmy seems morose and pessimistic as fuck.
Because most lemmy users used to be redditors, and redditors are morose and pessimistic as fuck.
Hey I was morose and pessimistic long before reddit and will be so long after thank you very much!!!
Very much this. The atmosphere here doesn't feel any different than it did back on reddit, for better or worse. I feel like there was a time when reddit was less pessimistic, but there's been at least a little of that vibe for a long time.
Agreed. What I'm really curious about, though, is how the atmosphere here is gonna change as thrediverse culture starts diverging from reddit. Are we going to stay depressed, are we going to gradually trend more optimistic, or will something completely different and unpredictable happen?
Not even remotely as bad as the pessimism on Reddit
Have a look at r/collapse to see how pessimist reddit csn be
Yup, when I've been in real depressive moods I've read stuff on that site, and man it's as depressing and pessimistic as you can imagine. The worst are those who almost cheer for the world to collapse.
Not just that, it's like they are actively trying to find ways to make it worse and somehow complain about what is happening at the same time as they put down any one or anything that provides change and hope.
Yeah, we know it's shit but you don't have to actively make it shitter
It's not just here, it's people in general. I find that most people are pretty pessimistic about the future or they don't care at all. That second group is generally the group that's not (or barely) on the internet
And then they wonder why progress isn't being made when they just don't give a shit or do anything to enact change if it isn't "good enough". Real progress historically has been something humanity has to work for even if it involves clawing our way to a better world one painful inch at a time. This kind of pessimism is basically an excuse to pretend to care but not actually have to do anything to fix stuff because "what's the point?" 🙄
I renovated a house from the '70s last year. We now have triple glazing instead of single panes, the roof and side of the house are inslutated, we got solar panels, water-saving showers, a greener water heater (would've loved to move away from gas, but my budget only stretches so far and the asbestos roof will have to be replaced in a couple of years), and soon the driveway will have its' non-porous gravel replaced with pavers designed to let water through.
Global warming won't be fixed by that, but if we all start making greener choices when we can I have hopes we can avert the worst.
The difference should be that here, we should be more of a "things do suck, but we should still do all we can to make it not suck as much." instead of reddit's "there is nothing we can do" attitude.
Indeed. Defeatism serves the fossil industry and is probably funded by it.
That's the general outlook as it seems. I find it extremely disconcerting...
Because although it looks bleak at a glance, things could be A LOT worse and things are getting better. It's just that we get flooded with so much negativity throughout all sorts of phases in our daily lives...
Eh that's some good point you highlight. Personally I find Lemmy to be much smarter on average than reddit, so I don't know what to think about the pessimism that also exists.
I hear you but we can still celebrate progress. It's really disheartening if you shit on every time somebody does something in the positive direction
Seriously, a big thing I've noticed here is that the general vibe of Lemmy seems morose and pessimistic as fuck.
Because most lemmy users used to be redditors, and redditors are morose and pessimistic as fuck.
Hey I was morose and pessimistic long before reddit and will be so long after thank you very much!!!
Very much this. The atmosphere here doesn't feel any different than it did back on reddit, for better or worse. I feel like there was a time when reddit was less pessimistic, but there's been at least a little of that vibe for a long time.
Agreed. What I'm really curious about, though, is how the atmosphere here is gonna change as thrediverse culture starts diverging from reddit. Are we going to stay depressed, are we going to gradually trend more optimistic, or will something completely different and unpredictable happen?
Not even remotely as bad as the pessimism on Reddit
Have a look at r/collapse to see how pessimist reddit csn be
Yup, when I've been in real depressive moods I've read stuff on that site, and man it's as depressing and pessimistic as you can imagine. The worst are those who almost cheer for the world to collapse.
Not just that, it's like they are actively trying to find ways to make it worse and somehow complain about what is happening at the same time as they put down any one or anything that provides change and hope.
Yeah, we know it's shit but you don't have to actively make it shitter
It's not just here, it's people in general. I find that most people are pretty pessimistic about the future or they don't care at all. That second group is generally the group that's not (or barely) on the internet
And then they wonder why progress isn't being made when they just don't give a shit or do anything to enact change if it isn't "good enough". Real progress historically has been something humanity has to work for even if it involves clawing our way to a better world one painful inch at a time. This kind of pessimism is basically an excuse to pretend to care but not actually have to do anything to fix stuff because "what's the point?" 🙄
I renovated a house from the '70s last year. We now have triple glazing instead of single panes, the roof and side of the house are inslutated, we got solar panels, water-saving showers, a greener water heater (would've loved to move away from gas, but my budget only stretches so far and the asbestos roof will have to be replaced in a couple of years), and soon the driveway will have its' non-porous gravel replaced with pavers designed to let water through.
Global warming won't be fixed by that, but if we all start making greener choices when we can I have hopes we can avert the worst.
The difference should be that here, we should be more of a "things do suck, but we should still do all we can to make it not suck as much." instead of reddit's "there is nothing we can do" attitude.
Indeed. Defeatism serves the fossil industry and is probably funded by it.
That's the general outlook as it seems. I find it extremely disconcerting... Because although it looks bleak at a glance, things could be A LOT worse and things are getting better. It's just that we get flooded with so much negativity throughout all sorts of phases in our daily lives...
Eh that's some good point you highlight. Personally I find Lemmy to be much smarter on average than reddit, so I don't know what to think about the pessimism that also exists.