Tree Style Tabs makes this much better. Horizontal tabs don't really work for >10 tabs. Vertical tabs are the only way to live.
Tried it and was disappointed that it was an additional thing that doesn't hide the default tab bar when enabled. Never ended up using it because of that, plus unreadable tabs is not a daily thing for me.
The trick is to use custom CSS to hide the default tab bar.
Or Firefox could add native support for both orientations, and tab grouping.
You can try Floorp browser (based on firefox) it hides the default tab bar and looks similar to vivaldi browser.
Also it has tree style tabs built in, you just have to enable it.
Try Sidebery instead.
OK neat I found the setting that allows hiding tabs (so it's just groups again), better than nothing but I'm guessing I'd still need to use custom CSS to just... turn off the horizontal tab bar completely when using the tree menu?
"Close all tabs" and bookmarks are also your friends.
If they made bookmarks that would update as you navigate, yes. Until then, no, they're not a substitute for tabs.
You mean history?
You're almost there. Imagine a thing that was like a bookmark but also had its own individual history, and also kept track of where you currently are in that history.
Is their anything that implements this?
Yes, I think they're calling them "tabs".
My browser has tabs.
I think that's what the history is for...
Not at all the same thing. For one, you can open a history entry and then navigate back from that to the page you came from to that page - which there may be several. Tabs preserve per-tab history which makes it superior in many ways to both history and bookmarks.
fair point but in practice, I don't really see it being useful very often... You could write an extension to implement that feature so that tabs dont crowd your space...
I mean, do whatever works for you, but that sounds kinda unnecessary when you can just use an already existing feature - tabs.
I do use tab, but they are kind of a problem too... I usually have 20+ tabs opened and many of them I never revisit.
Use a tab unloader addon. That way if you don't revisit then they don't take up any resources.
I use "Basic automated tab unloader" but there are several.
They would still use my attention and screen real estate, no?
Ah you don't have to keep all the tabs in view at the same time. There are addons like "Panorama Tab Groups" that let you only work with one group at a time.
Yes, book burning is mental hygiene
specially on Android where I manage to open new tabs on accident
I find Edges grouped tabs well implemented, not sure why Firefox doesnt move this way natively?
As to 14 tabs, I'd have 50 or more
Firefox had tab grouping much earlier than most browsers, but they removed it because reasons...
Gotta check out Sidebery. It’s a big upgrade from TST
TST works better with STG, and that is a huge plus for me.
Sidebery provides this functionality as well. Don’t get me wrong. If you like TST and STG, then enjoy!
WTF is STG?
TST = Tree Style Tabs
STG = Simple Tab Groups
Trees is sort of useful but vertical tabs and tree tabs take a lot more space and aren't useful .
Tree Style Tabs makes this much better. Horizontal tabs don't really work for >10 tabs. Vertical tabs are the only way to live.
Tried it and was disappointed that it was an additional thing that doesn't hide the default tab bar when enabled. Never ended up using it because of that, plus unreadable tabs is not a daily thing for me.
The trick is to use custom CSS to hide the default tab bar.
Or Firefox could add native support for both orientations, and tab grouping.
You can try Floorp browser (based on firefox) it hides the default tab bar and looks similar to vivaldi browser.
Also it has tree style tabs built in, you just have to enable it.
Try Sidebery instead.
OK neat I found the setting that allows hiding tabs (so it's just groups again), better than nothing but I'm guessing I'd still need to use custom CSS to just... turn off the horizontal tab bar completely when using the tree menu?
"Close all tabs" and bookmarks are also your friends.
If they made bookmarks that would update as you navigate, yes. Until then, no, they're not a substitute for tabs.
You mean history?
You're almost there. Imagine a thing that was like a bookmark but also had its own individual history, and also kept track of where you currently are in that history.
Is their anything that implements this?
Yes, I think they're calling them "tabs".
My browser has tabs.
I think that's what the history is for...
Not at all the same thing. For one, you can open a history entry and then navigate back from that to the page you came from to that page - which there may be several. Tabs preserve per-tab history which makes it superior in many ways to both history and bookmarks.
fair point but in practice, I don't really see it being useful very often... You could write an extension to implement that feature so that tabs dont crowd your space...
I mean, do whatever works for you, but that sounds kinda unnecessary when you can just use an already existing feature - tabs.
I do use tab, but they are kind of a problem too... I usually have 20+ tabs opened and many of them I never revisit.
Use a tab unloader addon. That way if you don't revisit then they don't take up any resources.
I use "Basic automated tab unloader" but there are several.
They would still use my attention and screen real estate, no?
Ah you don't have to keep all the tabs in view at the same time. There are addons like "Panorama Tab Groups" that let you only work with one group at a time.
Yes, book burning is mental hygiene
specially on Android where I manage to open new tabs on accident
I find Edges grouped tabs well implemented, not sure why Firefox doesnt move this way natively?
As to 14 tabs, I'd have 50 or more
Firefox had tab grouping much earlier than most browsers, but they removed it because reasons...
Gotta check out Sidebery. It’s a big upgrade from TST
TST works better with STG, and that is a huge plus for me.
Sidebery provides this functionality as well. Don’t get me wrong. If you like TST and STG, then enjoy!
WTF is STG?
TST = Tree Style Tabs STG = Simple Tab Groups
Trees is sort of useful but vertical tabs and tree tabs take a lot more space and aren't useful .