Luis Rubiales faces 30 month jail sentence for Jenni Hermoso kiss

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Luis Rubiales faces 30 month jail sentence for Jenni Hermoso kiss
theguardian.com

Luis Rubiales could face a prison sentence of two and a half years if convicted of kissing Jenni Hermoso on the lips against her will, court documents have shown. The former Spanish football federation chief has been charged with one count of sexual assault and one of coercion in the aftermath of the kiss, offences carrying jail terms of one year and 18 months respectively.

The 46-year-old grabbed ­Hermoso and kissed her on the lips on 20 August during the awards ceremony after Spain beat England in the Women’s World Cup final in Sydney, sparking global outrage and ­causing a national debate in Spain about ­sexism. ­Hermoso and her teammates said the kiss was unwanted and demeaning, but Rubiales argued it was consensual and denied any wrongdoing.

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So they want to get him off the street as the violent criminal he is?

What a joke...

So they want to get him off the street as the violent sexual predator criminal he is?

FTFY. The answer is yes BTW.

For a kiss? Ok, sure.

Thought you people hated the policestate but whatever... a fine, sure, but prison! This clown world man..

For the unwanted sexual assault, and the concerted effort to dismiss and reframe the event afterwards that was designed to silence her while never taking responsibility for anything.

Like seriously, the charges are in the article. And here you are, trying to dismiss and reframe the event afterwards...

The 46-year-old grabbed ­Hermoso and kissed her on the lips on 20 August during the awards ceremony

If that's sexual assault, that also should be punished with jail, remains for the court to decide. Not for you, though, since you have no authority at all.

And I think this whole thing is fucking ridiculous

If that’s sexual assault, that also should be punished with jail, remains for the court to decide.

It was sexual assault, and the punishment was jail as decided by a judge. But here you are, arguing against it despite having no authority at all...

But it's not decided..? What are you talking about man?

The conviction still has to be decided, yet the action has been judged to be sexual assault which is what brought the charges in the first place, and the judge had already decided the jail time involved. Try to keep up.

Whatever man, what you wrote was incorrect, next.

Next? What are you, a Facebook Karen?

'Next', like a waste of time 'next', like a stupid comment 'next' Like your comment.

Idk what the fuck do you want from me man?

Lmao don't worry I'm pretty sure no one wants anything from you specifically, what was it? Next!

Yeah 'next'

Like a Facebook karen

Did you even bother reading further or does your brain only have capacity for that single sentence?

Edit: I'm feeling generous so I'll help you:

The former Spanish football federation chief has been charged with one count of sexual assault and one of coercion in the aftermath of the kiss, offences carrying jail terms of one year and 18 months respectively.

Hermoso and her teammates said the kiss was unwanted and demeaning, but Rubiales argued it was consensual and denied any wrongdoing.

I'll break this down for you. Two scenarios.

Scenario#1 (where it could have gone):

  • Rubiales kisses Hermoso (does not look consensual)
  • Rubiales profusely apologizes in the aftermath and shows genuine remorse for his actions without spewing shit
  • He gets a fine and a slap on the wrist

Scenario#2 (where it went):

  • Rubiales kisses Hermoso (does not look consensual)
  • Hermoso says it was unwanted
  • Rubiales contradicts
  • Rubiales doubles down, gaslights
  • His team wants him to step down
  • Rubiales throws a tantrum

Admitting when you are wrong or did something wrong is manly. Rubiales is a powerhungry psychopath.

I just quoted a piece of the article....

So you would be cool if some dude grabbed you and kissed you in the lips against your will?

I've spent a lot of time in West Hollywood with my gay friends. I've had that exact thing happen. Was I cool with it? Not exactly, but I also understand it's different for women vs men because of both the power difference and the consistency. Do I think it warranted 30 months in jail? Jesus fuck, no. Do I think it deserved 1 month in jail? Again, no. A night in jail to think about what you've done plus a public apology so other men start seeing that it's not OK? That's starting to sound right.

Again, I understand it is different when this happens to women vs men, but I've had women in clothing stores walk by and grab my ass. That's much worse than this case, but I don't think that deserves a month in jail, let alone 30.

Now, the part where he tried to coerce her into saying it was welcomed and she was fine with it, that's where the real punishment should come from.

@dogslayeggs

Now, the part where he tried to coerce her into saying it was welcomed and she was fine with it, that’s where the real punishment should come from.

According to the article the potential maximum punishment for coercion is one and a half times the potential maximum punishment for sexual assault.

They arrived at the 30 month figure by adding the two together. Given that ratio and the circumstances, I think it's likely that the bulk of whatever sentence he does receive will be drawn from the coercion charge.

No did I say that? Goddamn it can't people read anymore ffs

So what do you mean by?

I think this whole thing is fucking ridiculous

It seems you are uninterested in any kind of justice for the victim.

No clearly not

No, not for "a kiss", for sexual assault and coercion just like it says in the article.

The kiss is the sexual assault

Making the words uglier doesn't change reality.

I hate the police state. Those people over there hate whatever made them mad in middle school.

You have the impression only violent criminals get sentenced to go to prison?

You have the impression only criminals get sentenced to prison?

Of course not. This is why Murvel's question seemed so weird that I thought of asking.

Oh, I thought we were doing a bit.

Like I agree with you, just thought we were going for dark humor

It looks like we had different visibility of the fediverse, I am in kbin. It seemed like you asked me. Murvel's comment just arrived. It still looks like you ask me.

No, did I say that?

You wrote:

So they want to get him off the street as the violent criminal he is?

I asked:

You have the impression only criminals get sentenced to prison?