Oh the wonders of technology

merari42@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 1495 points –
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The freedom to carry your DRM free music tapes around with you and easily lend them to your friends is sadly not in my pocket.

Buy DRM free music instead of streaming it.

Not all the artists provide it. At least through legal methods.

They don't make CDs anymore?

I haven't touched a music CD since Sony decided it would be fun to put rootkits on them.

Bandcamp usually has the artists I'm interested in though, thankfully.

As one of seemingly very few people that still buys CDs, they have become extremely difficult to find. Personally, I have to drive 90+ miles to the nearest store that sells them and pay a 25% markup when I get there, or order them off Amazon, in which case they always arrive with a broken case. I'm not counting Walmart because they only sell kpop and NOW cds. Target only sells kpop and Taylor Swift.

I typically buy mp3s off of Amazon (shameful, but convenient) and a CD is always suggested.

Otoh. I don't buy anything that's very exotic.

Well if you go apple you don't, but freedom is on Android. Flac is awesome

nah just convert them to ogg/opus unless you're archiving music. there's literally zero perceptible difference

I hear the difference, it's very clear difference with either heavy metal or music with natural sounds.

Do you hear it consistently under double-blind conditions?

Yes, i actually can't listen to Spotify (even their HD) because the quality is so bad (sounds noticably bad to me). I pay for lossless streaming even though some indie music is not available on the lossless service so i go look for it on lossy services.

You're telling me you've gone through all the effort of performing a double-blind test all by yourself?

I've done this test before, a zip folder with all 4 sources all same file size and you can listen to them and note how each sounds then you can read which one is which later from another source

you're probably lying or this is kind of placebo effect .
opus, with some exceptions, can reach transparency at even 150kbps (and of course you can and should go higer)
if the difference does exist it will never be "clear" to a human

Is ogg lossless? Just because you have limited hearing doesn't mean there aren't people who can hear differences. There are women who can see more colors than normal people (tetrachromacy). Assuming someone is lying because they aren't hearing damaged is absurd. Also young kids have better hearing(less damage) than adults, hearing damaged from work or life conditions like traffic with windows down.

well if you need both recordings and an audio spectrometer to even notice the difference, it might as well not exist. good lossy compression is indistinguishable from lossless

Ah yes thank you for verifying that it's not just as good

<0.1% non-perceptible audio quality "difference" is not worth 500% the storage space usage, unless you're archiving/preserving the audio and absolutely need the original bit-for-bit representation
if you're just listening to it use opus, or in the worst case ogg vorbis

Ah yes because it's 0.1% it doesn't exist.

try taking the ABX test lol

https://abx.digitalfeed.net/lame.320.html

this compares uncompressed audio and a 320kbps LAME-encoded mp3

(opus, on paper, should sound better than mp3 at half the bitrate but whatever)

(the website also has an opus 160kk test, but it's resampled so take it with a grain of salt: https://abx.digitalfeed.net/opus.html)

I've done the blind test before and 128k sounds the same as 320k, but flac and wav sounds clear and clean to me. IDK how people can tell the difference between 128k 320k (unless it was back in the day when encoding took longer and they used bad quality to save time)