Trump Lawyer Says Having Political Rival Killed Could Constitute 'Official' Presidential Act

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Trump Lawyer Says Having Political Rival Killed Could Constitute 'Official' Presidential Act
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Sotomayor: If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military to assasinate him, is that within his official acts to which he has immunity?

"That could well be an official act," Trump lawyer John Sauer says

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Biden should just send Seal Team 6 to whatever courthouse Trump's hush money trial is at and tell them to sit on the steps. If anyone asks why they're there, just saying "Waiting for the Supreme Court ruling". Maybe park another team on the Supreme Court steps with a sign that says "Waiting for Clarence Thomas."

Biden would not be committing an illegal act. He'd be ordering the teams to sit on the steps and wait. Further orders would only come after the Supreme Court ruling, so Biden would be covered by the very same Presidential immunity that Trump just fought for.

He pretty much has to, or else Trump will imprison him an execute him in the next 12 months.

I mean shit, if I knew there was a fifty percent chance my neighbor would kidnap and murder me in the next year..... I'd be making contingency plans.

Unfortunately that's not how Democrats work. For good or for bad they stick to morality (except when it comes to Israel for God knows what reason) and they'll take the "high road" that just so happens to lead off a cliff, but it's the high road so they need to take it even if it means their certain death.

We're a joke, doomed to die for the sake of the moral high ground that we have no right to even assume we have (see previous Isreal comment.)

Edit: but also, from the article, this isn't the actual desire. They already got what they wanted and that was a delay.

I sort of agree, but at some point, Biden has to understand his own self, and his family, and all the colleagues he has worked with in his career are at risk. Trump is seriously escalating a dangerous game that only SCOTUS or Biden can put an end to. Politics is eventually violence, and Biden must know that.

Trump is hiring expensive, smart people, to argue at the last peaceful authority in the country, that he will regain the power of judge jury and executioner. This is fucking chilling.

This should help left leaning voters reconsider gun restriction laws since most of them are enforced in blue areas, while red areas are all allowed to have essentially entire armories.

If you live in New York or California, you can't find a gun store within 100 miles of where you live that can only sell extremely restrictive features that would give the most battle hardened Navy Seal issues hitting targets, but in Idaho and Texas there's a gun store on every fucking corner selling easy to shoot highly ergonomic firearms that allow morbidly obese boomers to effortlessly hit the dick off a fly at 1000 meters.

Begging to differ, I'm sitting on my toilet in California and a quick Google shows there's 3 gun stores within 5 miles of me. I'd have to pass the legitimate restrictions (which I easily could) and one of them looks very upscale and expensive, but physical access is not a problem at all.

I’m in blue Oregon and we make and sell most of the tannerite people use for shooting.

Fair point, but I'm sure you are only able to be sold a very specific set of authorized firearms, that when compared to what similar stores in other states happen to also sell; will reveal the differences are orders of magnitude.

Case in point: a Cali compliant AR-15 is a horrible thing to shoot (I own this one).

Biden actually has control of the arsenal.

Unless you are a leftist, committed to dying in a revolution, there's no comparison to Biden's position. Clinton and Obama? Maybe

Of what arsenal?

He's the commander in chief. Can a local socialist militia stops the tanks?

Why don't you ask the Taliban or NVA?

About 12x as many dead Taliban as coalition.

You are correct. How does that change who won in the end?

Depends on how you determine victory. Their criteria was "invaders go home". For your local militia a better comparison would be asking David Koresh how things worked out.

  1. Conservative justices rule that the president is immune from prosecution

  2. President has conservative justices assassinated

  3. President appoints more progressive justices

  4. Progressive justices reverse ruling

Would the president be liable for the prior assassinations at that point?

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Bonus points if their orders include the phrase "stand back and stand by".

While funny to imagine...please let's not. I got a kid to raise, I don't want to raise one in a civil war. I know for sure some of the "SEAL team 6" members wouldn't very much like being turned on government officials, especially if their politics align.

To be a seal, you will do what orders you are given. They aren't going to go rogue. The ones that will are the cannon fodder anyways.

Clarence: “I was watching a porno about this just this morning… I will meet you gentlemen in my chambers in 5 minutes.”

That doesn't work because the intimidation is still illegal until the ruling.

Not some random courthouse. Just the steps of the Supreme Court.

Decisions like this should have immediate consequences for those deciding. If you want to make the President above the law, well, enjoy your stay in Gitmo.

Is the President also in charge of the Secret Service?

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