'Horrific' violence at UCLA after counter-protesters attack pro-Palestinian camp
bbc.com
Violence erupted at the University of California, Los Angeles after pro-Israeli counter-demonstrators attacked a pro-Palestinian campus encampment. Bubbling tensions on the campus boiled over following the alleged breach of a "buffer zone" between the rival groups.
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Does anyone know what political stance(s) the attacking crowd is made of?
Like, also lefties? Tankies, anarchists? Or like MAGAs?
why the hell would tankies and anarchist side with the counter protestors. palestine litterally isnt a state yet(its trying to get accepted in the UN)
Sorry, are you following this story generally? Lefties, tankies and anarchists all seem extremely unlikely to be involved with pro Israel attackers.
Ok wow. First, thanks to everyone who have their estimates. Appreciated. And for everyone else and the warriors of downvoting: No I was not trolling abd not it's not THAT unilkely for it to be lefties (yes okay anarchists and tankies I mostly said as exmples so you know what I'm trying to ask)
If you are interested: there is a german lefty flavor called Antideutsche (anti-german). They are Zionists, antifas, anticapitalist, have a thing for violence (stylizing "bomber harris" for example), say weird thing like "protecting ur environment is like protecting your 'home country' like nazis would" and sometimes think of whoever basically as if they were nazis.
I'm not making this up, lefties go weird ways sometimes.
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Okay on second thought I wanna take back that warriors comment, that was too bitchy. Guess I'm also not uneffected by how toxic the whole discourse on Israel (also in or between lefty communities) is.
Like, everyone seems to feel they'd have to be either "pro israel" or "pro palestine", wich imo 1. Is freaking dangerous for germans specifically 2. Doesn't recognize the complexity (in the sense of one can't just identify the totality of Israel with its right wing government as ome can't just identify palestine with hamas.) 3. It tends to overlook the perspective of both israelian and palestinian lefties
Zionists, probably wouldn't surprise me if they made common cause with actual neo-nazi groups as well, wouldn't be the first time.
Are you trolling?
No, see response in other comment
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "not the left", and leave the rest as an exercise to the reader.
MAGAs. because american conservatives are often also american evangelists, and they've got some weird ideas about israel. those conservatives who don't necessarily personally believe weird stuff about israel (ie the jews having a homeland means the second coming of jesus and everything will be great for evangelical christians) are being brought along by the right-wing propaganda on this issue.
Alt-Right just likes attacking leftwing protests. No actual political beliefs required. It's the physical version of owning the libs.
i think that's definitely a part of it.
I’ve seen reports that they were Chabad Lubavitch. Not sure of the accuracy.
There were two attacks on different days, so it could be separate groups, but a Jewish professor who intervened said a lot of them were speaking Hebrew and one carried a Chabad flag.
Zionists, Democrats, and Republicans.
For every large group there's probably only only 2-8 that are genuinely knowledgeable and authentic about the beliefs being fought for. Regardless of sides.
Or not idk... Idk why I'm posting this.