Dude was a criminal, rightfully convicted. So of course Trump would pardon him.
He didn't know who he was 30 hours ago - now it's between Ulbricht and Rittenhouse for VP....
Don't forget the corpse of Noem's dead dog. Trump has seen him in the news a lot too.
Did he do something morally wrong? I'm confused by your statement if you're only referring to creation/management of silk road. Heard some accusations about him being involved in murder-for-hire but I didn't think that was ever substantiated
He kinda tried to have an imaginary person taken out...that's what got him.
He facilitated the sale of many dangerous drugs and weapons. You cant run a website without rules and claim ignorance. In the same vein, I think the Purdue family and executives of that company deserve to be in jail for life as well.
It definitely had rules. Purdue pushed drugs on people while misinforming them and doctors, and did kickbacks and all other sorts of corruption. Weapon sales I'm kinda mixed on, probably not the best idea. But absolutely fuck off with that drug war bullshit. If people want to buy drugs and overdose on them they should be free to do so. Drugs aren't dangerous, lack of information is.
Unenforced rules aren't the same. I know there are libertarians that think his incarceration was unjustified but they ignore all the bad things silk road did. And drugs are definitely dangerous. Back then you could get anything, there were listings for black market weapons. Don't try to gaslight me or the rest of Lemmy by trying to make this man a martyr. There are actually innocent people in jail now that need the attention more.
Drugs are not dangerous. Misusing drugs is dangerous. If you're using clean, tested drugs at a dose that's documented thoroughly to be safe, where exactly is the danger?
Drugs aren't dangerous. My brother died of something other than opiate overdose. Morons everywhere.
Opioids don't just jump into your mouth/nose/lungs/veins. Someone has to put them there. If you do that incorrectly, there is a risk of death. You sound like one of those cops that "overdosed" on fentanyl just by looking at it. Anyways, I checked out the "weapons sales" allegations and couldn't find anything to substantiate that claim. Also, Wikipedia appears to indicate it was explicitly disallowed in the rules you claim did not exist.
"The site's terms of service prohibited the sale of certain items. When the Silk Road marketplace first began, the creator and administrators instituted terms of service that prohibited the sale of anything whose purpose was to "harm or defraud."[) This included [child pornography](
"Child pornography"), stolen credit cards, assassinations, and weapons of any type; other darknet markets such as [Black Market Reloaded] ( "Black Market Reloaded") gained user notoriety because they were not as restrictive on these items as the Silk Road incarnations were."
It's funny they posted those rules yet no one followed them. How do you think the drugs got to their mouths? Silk road facilitated that sale and more and did NOTHING to stop them.
People bought them and ate them I'm guessing, unless.. oh no! Did Ross personally force-feed your brother Percocet??? Now I understand why you feel the way you do. My bad man, very sorry they drugged your brother. In general though I think it's probably more common than not for people to buy and voluntarily consume their drugs.
He sold them illegally so he's in jail. I'm sorry you are having trouble with that concept. Blocked.
Ohhh noes! Not illegally! Whatever will we do???? Fucking conservitards everywhere. I have no problem with that concept, I completely understand it, and with that understanding vehemently disagree.
I would argue that attempting to have someone murdered is morally wrong.
Yeah I'm really just wondering if that actually happened though. I don't see any charges related to that.
Because it never happened. The only charges ever brought on the topic were dismissed with prejudice.
It was just another lie and corrupt thing done like his entire case is littered with.
This doesn't make sense to me. Is someone paying Donald to do this? It's just what he believes libertarians want to hear, he won't do it unless he is being paid for pardons.
There have been multiple articles that you could get a pardon for 2 million USD. That's the previous time he was president.
Yep! That's what I am basing my thoughts on. Donald won't do shit unless there is some sort of short-term profit or ego soothe.
Oh whatever. Fuck Trump but Ross Ulbricht isn't as bad as your glorious leaders would have you think. It's time to end the fucking drug war already jfc.
Are you ignorant of how other countries decriminalize drugs? It's not like it's a free for all. They have services in place to educate people, offer safe and clean environments and give them help when they stop.
You asshole libertarians just want to make it legal. No other thought, no government services or help. The people can handle it but then you get on the road and see how people handle traffic lol. If you haven't been paying attention the drug war is effectively over. Now they need to decriminalize it properly.
Yes yes and alcohol and cigarettes get a pass because reasons.
You'll never convince me that running a marketplace allowing people to sell things to other people is worthy of life imprisonment. You'd even be hard pressed to convince me that people selling things you simply don't like to other people deserve life imprisonment. You can take your high horse right the fuck on out of here.
You'll never convince me that running a marketplace allowing people to sell things to other people is worthy of life imprisonment.
Never? Look, I’m not one to “think of the children” an argument, but you can’t think of a single thing that someone could facilitate the buying and selling of that is worthy of life imprisonment?
Not even CSAM? Not even human trafficking?
Well, "humans" aren't "things" and CSAM while it could be argued is a "thing" necessitates harming an unwilling or unable to consent individual to create.
Dude was a criminal, rightfully convicted. So of course Trump would pardon him.
He didn't know who he was 30 hours ago - now it's between Ulbricht and Rittenhouse for VP....
Don't forget the corpse of Noem's dead dog. Trump has seen him in the news a lot too.
Did he do something morally wrong? I'm confused by your statement if you're only referring to creation/management of silk road. Heard some accusations about him being involved in murder-for-hire but I didn't think that was ever substantiated
He kinda tried to have an imaginary person taken out...that's what got him.
He facilitated the sale of many dangerous drugs and weapons. You cant run a website without rules and claim ignorance. In the same vein, I think the Purdue family and executives of that company deserve to be in jail for life as well.
It definitely had rules. Purdue pushed drugs on people while misinforming them and doctors, and did kickbacks and all other sorts of corruption. Weapon sales I'm kinda mixed on, probably not the best idea. But absolutely fuck off with that drug war bullshit. If people want to buy drugs and overdose on them they should be free to do so. Drugs aren't dangerous, lack of information is.
Unenforced rules aren't the same. I know there are libertarians that think his incarceration was unjustified but they ignore all the bad things silk road did. And drugs are definitely dangerous. Back then you could get anything, there were listings for black market weapons. Don't try to gaslight me or the rest of Lemmy by trying to make this man a martyr. There are actually innocent people in jail now that need the attention more.
Drugs are not dangerous. Misusing drugs is dangerous. If you're using clean, tested drugs at a dose that's documented thoroughly to be safe, where exactly is the danger?
Drugs aren't dangerous. My brother died of something other than opiate overdose. Morons everywhere.
Opioids don't just jump into your mouth/nose/lungs/veins. Someone has to put them there. If you do that incorrectly, there is a risk of death. You sound like one of those cops that "overdosed" on fentanyl just by looking at it. Anyways, I checked out the "weapons sales" allegations and couldn't find anything to substantiate that claim. Also, Wikipedia appears to indicate it was explicitly disallowed in the rules you claim did not exist.
"The site's terms of service prohibited the sale of certain items. When the Silk Road marketplace first began, the creator and administrators instituted terms of service that prohibited the sale of anything whose purpose was to "harm or defraud."[) This included [child pornography]( "Child pornography"), stolen credit cards, assassinations, and weapons of any type; other darknet markets such as [Black Market Reloaded] ( "Black Market Reloaded") gained user notoriety because they were not as restrictive on these items as the Silk Road incarnations were."
It's funny they posted those rules yet no one followed them. How do you think the drugs got to their mouths? Silk road facilitated that sale and more and did NOTHING to stop them.
People bought them and ate them I'm guessing, unless.. oh no! Did Ross personally force-feed your brother Percocet??? Now I understand why you feel the way you do. My bad man, very sorry they drugged your brother. In general though I think it's probably more common than not for people to buy and voluntarily consume their drugs.
He sold them illegally so he's in jail. I'm sorry you are having trouble with that concept. Blocked.
Ohhh noes! Not illegally! Whatever will we do???? Fucking conservitards everywhere. I have no problem with that concept, I completely understand it, and with that understanding vehemently disagree.
I would argue that attempting to have someone murdered is morally wrong.
Yeah I'm really just wondering if that actually happened though. I don't see any charges related to that.
Because it never happened. The only charges ever brought on the topic were dismissed with prejudice.
It was just another lie and corrupt thing done like his entire case is littered with.
This doesn't make sense to me. Is someone paying Donald to do this? It's just what he believes libertarians want to hear, he won't do it unless he is being paid for pardons.
There have been multiple articles that you could get a pardon for 2 million USD. That's the previous time he was president.
Yep! That's what I am basing my thoughts on. Donald won't do shit unless there is some sort of short-term profit or ego soothe.
Oh whatever. Fuck Trump but Ross Ulbricht isn't as bad as your glorious leaders would have you think. It's time to end the fucking drug war already jfc.
Are you ignorant of how other countries decriminalize drugs? It's not like it's a free for all. They have services in place to educate people, offer safe and clean environments and give them help when they stop.
You asshole libertarians just want to make it legal. No other thought, no government services or help. The people can handle it but then you get on the road and see how people handle traffic lol. If you haven't been paying attention the drug war is effectively over. Now they need to decriminalize it properly.
Yes yes and alcohol and cigarettes get a pass because reasons.
You'll never convince me that running a marketplace allowing people to sell things to other people is worthy of life imprisonment. You'd even be hard pressed to convince me that people selling things you simply don't like to other people deserve life imprisonment. You can take your high horse right the fuck on out of here.
Never? Look, I’m not one to “think of the children” an argument, but you can’t think of a single thing that someone could facilitate the buying and selling of that is worthy of life imprisonment?
Not even CSAM? Not even human trafficking?
Well, "humans" aren't "things" and CSAM while it could be argued is a "thing" necessitates harming an unwilling or unable to consent individual to create.
Also, ykwim goddammit lmao.