1,000 Harvard Students Walk Out of Commencement to Support 13 Seniors Barred from Graduation over Gaza

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More than a thousand Harvard students walked out of their commencement ceremony yesterday to support 13 undergraduates who were barred from graduating after they participated in the Gaza solidarity encampment in Harvard Yard.

Asmer Safi, one of the 13 pro-Palestinian student protesters barred from graduating, says that while his future has been thrown into uncertainty while he is on probation, he has no regrets about standing up for Palestinian rights.

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Trump will arrest all Palestine protesters on day 1 and promote REAL genocide in Gaza. All you anti-Biden assholes can eat a dick because that’s what you’ll get from orange Mussolini.

K, and how is that relevant?

In your mind, all these students were "Palestine protestsers" that hate Biden? Can you help us out here? Do you have a full thought you'd like to complete, or are you just scared and angry?

To everyone else, how did people learn absolutely nothing about politics, or even basic communication during the last 8 damn years? Yelling and nagging at people, even if you're right, will always come off as being an insufferable, annoying asshole to anyone that doesn't already agree with you and isn't interested in something you've immediately felt the need to put down because you think you already know what's important

There's plenty of good books out there for anyone interested in learning how to communicate with others, especially those you disagree with - I recommend You're Not Listening or I'm Just Saying as good starting points

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

Sure let's go!

  1. They just now finalized the rule and it's expected to be struck down in the courts under the major questions doctrine. Exactly like Obama's. If it isn't struck down then it still has to contend with the massive amount of wage theft in this country. Rights you cannot access are not rights.
  1. Lmao, that was a pharma corporate push. Biden just didn't get in the way. But again, the republican courts are already on making sure we can't have nice things.
  1. Oh so there's money to give kids counselors after a shooting, but not money to let the CDC study gun violence?
  1. Biden came into office with renewable energy already at lower building and maintenance cost than fossil fuels. The IRA actually restricted the growth of renewable energy stuff to make sure American Rich people got more rich. It also protects Big Oil because it made renewable energy more expensive to build and maintain.
  1. This doesn't matter because house prices are still accelerating ridiculously fast, now with high interest mortgages.
  1. The CFPB is as poisoned as the FCC. This rule will last as long as Biden does.
  1. This is awkward, but this was actually a Trump era law.
  1. The GOP ran an end-run around this law before it was even "reformed". They have laws allowing their legislatures to designate a winner instead of listening to the "preference vote".
  1. MIC goes Brrrrrrt no matter whose in charge.
  1. The family farm is dead. This is just another gift to corporations.
  1. Really? The paint on the special plane is on this list? People are fucking dying.
  1. Nobody in the Southwest expects the water deal to hold once the chips are down. The federal money is nice but Vegas and California aren't going to cut back their usage when Phoenix reaches zero day. They certainly aren't going to tolerate having a day like that themselves so city and state officials downriver can continue to pull water rather than ship it in. We need to incentivize moving people and corporations out of the area.
  1. Again, the family farms are dead. There are small(er) Ag corps, but nothing like the PR suggests. Corporations thank you for your donation.
  1. Marijuana did not get legalized. Schedule 3 drugs are still illegal to have without government permission.
  1. Oh hey, this could be great. If SCOTUS doesn't kill it for being a novel regulation instead of a novel legislation. They've been very clear about that since their EPA ruling about coal.
  1. We actually just found out that Intel got a giant chunk of this funding for defense industry chips. The other fun problem is related to number 12. The new chip factory is in Arizona. It's startlingly water neutral but it does still require water. And it brings more people into the water problem.
  1. This is something that could go either way. It's not an unalloyed good without legislative follow up that doesn't exist.
  1. The MIC goes Brrrrrt no matter who is president.
  1. As the 2018 plan showed, good vibes do not stop cyber attacks.
  1. The MIC goes Brrrrrt no matter who is president. But also this is taking credit for something the two countries were already coming around to. Fun extra - Both countries also have unpopular presences of US troops that domestic politics may force out.
  1. They seriously just gave Biden credit for decades of progress on Cancer. I didn't know he was president for that long..
  1. Yup it's true, look up ADHD symptoms and you too can get legal speed easier than ever.
  1. This one might actually be the gem on the list, I wonder why it's buried so far down? Oh yeah that's to do with Politico's ownership. At any rate it's super narrow, well based in law, and leaves a ton of room for companies to wiggle out of their unions still. So SCOTUS might let it stand as a PR show.
  1. Yes, we know Biden can run a functional government. That's the basic job requirement.
  1. Doomed by SCOTUS. It's not based in law and SCOTUS has made their opinion of that very clear.
  1. Damn they're just going to ignore the Infrastructure bills passed by Clinton, Bush, and Obama? I know Trump's presidency seemed like forever, but there was a before time.
  1. Yup Biden achieved the "All of the above" energy policy. It really made sure we're moving towards more oil production. Yup you read that right. They just tried to positive spin Record US Oil Production. And gas prices just keep on climbing that staircase to heaven. So they're producing more, and keeping record profits doing so.
  1. MIC goes Brrrrrrrt. Also a repeat of number 20.
  1. Repeat cyber attacks. I get the feeling someone mandated the list be 30 things long?
  1. Yay people who can afford air travel can get refunds! For real screw the corporations, but we've got bigger problems than airline refunds.

Okay so how did we do? Let's have a look. 12 things on the list were in process before he started. 14 things that aren't really more than performative politics. 10 things that are just gifts to corporations with fun wrapping. Okay though how many actually good things did he pass that SCOTUS doesn't have a standing opinion against? 6, six things out of a list of 30. And they all come with giant asterisks. There's one thing on the list that's just straight progress and that's the NLRB Cemex decision. As always it comes down to democrats failing to reform the supreme court. They aren't willing to do the actual thing needed to stop living in a status quo set by republicans.

Completely unrealistic bullshit most of your whining isn’t even about Biden lmao. Brrrt my ass lol.

Well that's because roughly half of the list wasn't about Biden either, despite the try hard headline.

There's plenty of good books out there for anyone interested in learning how to communicate with others, especially those you disagree with - I recommend You're Not Listening or I'm Just Saying as good starting points

[✓] I'm not a robot

It is already a real genocide. Israel just bombed tents in Rafah, causing a child to be beheaded.

Nobody here said anything about biden, you're just insulting people unprompted.

Edit: What exactly are you trying to accomplish by posting this?

It is related. Moreover, can't blame him for preemptively calling out the typical bullshit and virtue signaling we've been seeing.

Do you consider virtue signaling to be inherently bad? Because I'm pretty sure his comment also qualifies as such.

That's not quite virtue signaling. He isn't proclaiming support of a good cause or expressing some distinct moral correctness, he is condemning a single perspective and common response in these posts. After all, we can infer his stance, though he makes no claim towards his beliefs, all we know is what he is against. It's a petty distinction, though I feel it helps move it away from virtue signaling.

But no, few things are inherently bad. Our interpretation and our meaning(s) behind our words or actions make them that way. Which is why people tend to fall heavily on one side of a discussion or another.

edit: I see I am getting some downvotes. I am happy to take criticism on this take. No easier way to learn than to challenge oneself to listen and then do.

I’m trying to highlight the distinction between Biden and Trump options. There are many on social media that are proclaiming they will not vote for Biden because he is “promoting genocide”. Despite the fact that every POTUS in the last 50 years has had this exact policy (supporting and providing weaponry to Israel). Despite the fact that Trump is actively in favor of genocide and fascism. The lesser of 2 evils is also known as “the better choice.”

To what end are you trying to highlight that distinction though? What is the goal or motivation for writing that?

The lesser of two evils is also known as “the better choice”.

Unlike some paying lip service about "red lines", my promises are real. My red line is genocide.

You can vote for your varying levels of evil, I will not vote for genocide.

Personally I think it's probably best for Americans to vote Biden, since that will give the left some more time to organize, but I get that it's just too much for some to swallow. I'm just glad I have actual options in my country.

It’s America, you don’t get the choice to vote against genocide.

Just like you don’t get the choice to vote against capitalism.

Democracy.

It’s America, you don’t get the choice to vote against genocide

If yout live in a swing state, maybe. Those of us in solid states can vote however we like as our votes don't matter anyway

Great system we have

That's not what I was asking about, what did you hope to accomplish? Are you actually trying to convince people or did you just think you'd feel better if you did?

Yeah genius, they're out there protesting "Biden"

Because they aren't being arrested now? Did you have some kind of news feed that didn't show the police going after college kids with batons?

Your inability to understand the difference between much and few is embarrassing. Thanks for proving my point of lunatics asking for worse than now.

I can't tell if you're here to instigate as a right wing psyop or because you have so much electoralism brainrot that you have to make everything about an election that is still months away when there are more important things happening right now. People are dying.

JFC, pick your topic to get over outraged about. 150,000 people die a day in the world. Burning fossil fuels is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 of those deaths. https://seas.harvard.edu/news/2021/02/deaths-fossil-fuel-emissions-higher-previously-thought

Get some perspective and realize that there are more important things happening right now. People are dying. All over the world.

Are you trying to prove my point? I'm not going into threads about protesting or sabotaging dirty energy infrastructure and freaking out about how activists and the people who support them are all Biden haters and being overall inflammatory. Telling me to get some perspective is cute when it's obvious you came to this thread focused on a single thing and ready to start shit, you didn't come here to gain any perspective.

Joke's on you, I love dick!

Not related to the article, and anyway if Biden wanted my vote he should actually try to earn it rather than bash his opponent.

lol how dense do you have to be to not realize Biden is the most progressive president in the last 50 years. Progressive enough? Of course not. But the most progressive in your lifetime. Good luck cutting your nose off to spite your face lol.

Yes he has green policies. Doesn’t change the fact that he actively insulted the Arab and Muslim-American communities and broke campaign promises. He’s completely ignored both of our communities this time around, and instead of saying any positive stuff he did it seems all his campaign attempts to our community are about how bad Trump is. So to reiterate, if he wants MY vote he will have to actually address my community at some point, otherwise he is treating the campaign as if he can win without me and thus doesn’t need my swing state vote.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

Your article gives examples like he cancelled Trump’s plan to repaint Air Force One. That affects me how?

Let me save you time. He made campaign promises to the Muslim community and broke multiple ones, then stayed silent for years despite rising Islamophobia and instead focused his administration only on anti-semitism. (Both are terrible but he ignored our community despite our equal fears) He then decided to make it worse by saying he has zero trust for Palestinians, only to privately say he meant Hamas but never corrected the record. So he helped murder relatives of people in my community, and the only outreach to us is saying Trump would be worse. This is supposed to motivate a community that 80% voted for him last time? He’s not a good person and if he loses it’s his own fault.

Executive order 13769. If you’re happy with Trump being worse then by all means, vote for Trump. You deserve him.

And once again rather than show me something positive about Biden you again talk about how bad Trump was. You proved my point.

The origins of this are almost certainly rooted in right-wing operative and foreign troll farms intending to sow defeatism and wedge-drive the Democratic coalition. The people promoting this have a tendency to fall into the category of either being the ones serving the kool-aid, or drinking the kool-aid.

What's more is that the right is trying so hard to use this moment to paint the left as being antisemitic. If Republicans didn't paint with such broad strokes the pro-Gazan civilian protests by pointing to fringe protesters — often from outside groups — this wouldn't have been a problem in the first place. Shame on any university staff that cave to the bullshit pressure.

Are the democrats actively supporting genocide and alienating the voters they need to win in November?

No, it is the children who are right wing troll farms.

Are the democrats actively supporting genocide

Circular reasoning fallacy / begging the question.

and alienating the voters they need to win in November?

Actually it's a bit of a zero-sum situation, considering the number of Jewish Americans. However Biden has already shifted considerably since October 7th, obviously.

The real question you need to answer is why would Biden ever want to do this, if your premise was true. Realizing there is no good answer to that should permit you to reflect on the nature of how false your premise really is.

But I suspect you already know that.

Idk what any of this means.

It’s the principal skinner meme.

What do you think my premise is?

Idk what any of this means.

That's all I need to know. Good day.