Biden’s ads haven’t been working. Now, he’s trying something new.

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Biden’s ads haven’t been working. Now, he’s trying something new.
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Stop doing a genocide that has his base livid with him?

I didn't realize Joe Biden was the Prime Minister of Israel

I don’t know if “I’m not the man pulling the trigger, just providing the guns, ammo, 2000 pound bombs to maim and kill children and run cover against the international community (including shooting down a giant swarm of Iranian missiles)” is as strong of a argument as you think it is. Biden is instrumental in Israel’s genocide. Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

How did you come to that conclusion? Israel has their own arms production, and many current and potential allies who would step in.

Lol

Nah

What they do have is the world's most unsecret nuclear stockpile. If Israel wants to have peace, they can acknowledge Palestinian sovereignity and then close their new borders.

They aren't under threat from the neighboring states, much less some rebels with AKs.

But they don't want that. They want to do a genocide.

Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

I’d LOVE to see you show your work on this.

Have you ever seen Biden and Netanjahu in the same room? Makes you think ...

Reagan and Bush senior told Israel to cut it out when they were overstepping and Israel straightened the fuck up.

If conservative presidents can do it, so can Biden.

They honestly believe he’s the president of the entire world it seems.

I’ve always thought expecting any US President to upend 70 years of foreign policy is silly. The US being a reliable ally is very important on the world stage, this stuff changes slowly.

Undermining Biden because he isn’t pulling the rug from under Israel is stupid and ignores the big picture of geopolitics. Not to mention helps trump, which will turn Gaza into a parking lot and enstate Christo-fascist theocracy.

That would be the normal, sane, reaction.

If Israel wasn't currently engaged in massive war crimes. All of our allies are coming around on this, leaving just us shielding Israel from any consequences.

And the wheels are turning on waning US support. Public opinion has turned against us being involved, albeit for different reasons.

Biden has been critical of Israel, I agree we should stop supplying weapons and funding but those decision rest more in congress than directly with Biden. And they won’t be made quickly.

Actually Congress doesn't have a say in this without passing a new law. Biden has the power to stop weapon shipments today. He already stopped the 2,000 lb and 500 lb bomb shipment. Which is also a tacit acknowledgement that they know Netanyahu is committing war crimes and thus is ineligible for any military aid under the Leahy Law and Foreign Assistance Act.

Biden has the legal power to announce the suspension of all military aid and sales to Israel right now.

The “doing a genocide” thing comes off as incredibly immature and cringy as hell.

Oh but actually doing a genocide is fine. Just make sure you use proper English when talking about it?

While I appreciate your example of what a shitty strawman argument looks like, I never asked for one.

Either point out the location in my statement where I said “doing a genocide is fine” or admit you have nothing to offer the conversation, and are here to troll as usual.

You've plastered your opinion that you're willing to commit genocide for domestic political gain all over these boards.

Show me where or admit you’re a fucking troll. And I’m not talking about your batshit-insane interpretations of anything you disagree with being in support of genocide.

I’m asking you to prove I have said anything even remotely similar to what you’re accusing me of.

Here you go. I especially love the ones where you specifically threaten us with Trump or where you accuse us of "holding our votes hostage for one issue". That issue being... Genocide.

So… you have absolutely nothing to offer. Fantastic!

Thanks for playing, troll!

I think anyone looking at your post history will find more than enough evidence.

Right… so. Given that… anyone looking will see me responding to bad faith MAGA trolls and Russian bots that plague this site… like you.

If you can accuse me of shit- I can defend myself with accusations of my own.

Sure thing buddy. Maybe you should think about how many people you're willing to sacrifice for that political gain instead of accusing everyone who disagrees with you.

I’ll do that when you finally come around to understanding that all of your anti-Biden bullshit is going to get even more Palestinians killed.

But you already know that.

Better yet- I’ll do that when you admit you don’t give a shit about it.

Oh, and you have the nerve to say: “accusing everyone that disagrees with you.”

Fucking hilarious coming from someone who thinks everyone here that’s not left of left is a gEnOciDe sUpPorTeR!

The fact that you think even more will die says you don't understand the scale of what's going on.

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