How is a state that's largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It's not a Israel Iran proxy war. It's a us Iran proxy war
Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.
And the US has been doing the same for Israel
… Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.
Perhaps, but they'd do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. -- this is the problem.
They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.
Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.
If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.
There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.
International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other states.
The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen's Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.
I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.
Ownership of land with agreed-upon borders defines a country. A nation needs to govern its land, but does not necessarily have permanent agreed-upon borders. That’s why Palestine is a nation, but not a country, for example.
Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.
Gtfo
You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.
And I am clarifying to you that Israel doesn't recognize any such laws so they don't get any benefit of them.
It is an illegal colonization program conducted at a gun point with forced removals and genocide.
So we are all clear here.
By that logic, so is the US.
Prolly why US population was easily swayed to support this degeneracy
Two wrongs don't make a right and Israel is doing this right now and we are letting them.
I agree that both settlements were wrong. Now that there’s an established system to define nations and countries, I think it’s important to be informed on how it works.
For example, the “favor” Netanyahu does by telling Palestinians to evacuate couldn’t be more corrupt. Since Palestine is a nation, but not a country with defined borders, full evacuation of settled land is no longer under their control and can legally be taken by Israel.
The same is not true for Ukraine, for example. Since it is a country, if all Ukrainians evacuate an area due to Russian invasion, it becomes a Russian occupation of Ukraine, not Russian land.
How so? My understanding is that Hezbollah is supported by Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Lebanon.
Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.
Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.
Iran has been fighting a proxy conflict against Israel through the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas since 1985.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict
How is a state that's largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It's not a Israel Iran proxy war. It's a us Iran proxy war
Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.
And the US has been doing the same for Israel
… Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.
Perhaps, but they'd do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. -- this is the problem.
They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.
Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.
If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.
There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state
So an army and a mailing address?
The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen's Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.
I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.
Ownership of land with agreed-upon borders defines a country. A nation needs to govern its land, but does not necessarily have permanent agreed-upon borders. That’s why Palestine is a nation, but not a country, for example.
Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.
Gtfo
You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.
And I am clarifying to you that Israel doesn't recognize any such laws so they don't get any benefit of them.
It is an illegal colonization program conducted at a gun point with forced removals and genocide.
So we are all clear here.
By that logic, so is the US.
Prolly why US population was easily swayed to support this degeneracy
Two wrongs don't make a right and Israel is doing this right now and we are letting them.
I agree that both settlements were wrong. Now that there’s an established system to define nations and countries, I think it’s important to be informed on how it works.
For example, the “favor” Netanyahu does by telling Palestinians to evacuate couldn’t be more corrupt. Since Palestine is a nation, but not a country with defined borders, full evacuation of settled land is no longer under their control and can legally be taken by Israel.
The same is not true for Ukraine, for example. Since it is a country, if all Ukrainians evacuate an area due to Russian invasion, it becomes a Russian occupation of Ukraine, not Russian land.
Technically, Hezbollah is a proxy for Israel.
How so? My understanding is that Hezbollah is supported by Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Lebanon.
Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.
Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.
This shit is cancer