Under Meredith Whittaker, Signal Is Out to Prove Surveillance Capitalism Wrong

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Under Meredith Whittaker, Signal Is Out to Prove Surveillance Capitalism Wrong
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Signal yes, Proton I have my doubts

I think yours is the first comment I've read that has Proton hesitancy. I'm curious what your reservations are.

I actually don't know what people's hesitancy is, but I've seen numerous people say proton is not good, we'll see if anybody chimes in with a reason.

I've seen doubt of it's push to pack products into it's offering ala Google - however I don't see that as enough to call it not good.

It's also very easy (and suspicious imo) for anyone to call a service not good without any reason to back it up.

The one and only critique I'll give to Proton is how they have it where you can have Google e-mails forwarded to you to your Proton address.

And it's like...why? The entire reason you're going to ProtonMail is to escape Google. Why the hell would you want Google to try and pry into your Proton usage when all you want is to distance yourself from them?

Not OP

There's not a lot of negative press about them.

They complied with Swiss government requests to out the IP of a French activist.

It looks like they're really doing the best they can.

Correct. They comply with court orders, its a business. People still need to be secure in how they use it, which that guy wasnt. So if you're attempting to evade the government, use a vpn. All your data is encrypted, where you access it from and your billing information cannot be.

True but the guy was the one at fault and Proton had to comply. The French Activist was using ProtonMail e-mail for bad usages which is what it boiled down to. You left out the part where they complied with Swiss government yes but they didn't with the French authorities.

Yet it still comes down to people's own responsibility. But people love to throw that out the window and expect everything to protect them when they get up in shit.

Not OP, I've heard criticism of their recent Duo subscription and their bitcoin wallet.

I use Proton services and my biggest gripe is their mediocre Linux VPN app. No binaries to download/Flatpak, advertised port-forwarding isn't fully implemented and requires playing around in a terminal, and UI feels less polished than it's Windows counterpart.

There's a community made Flatpak of ProtonVPN though, in case it helps anyone

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