They can go to their own hospitals instead of placing the burden on Washington
Sure. But this is kinda just accelerationism/xenophobia, no? For example, replace "Idaho" with "Mexico" in your argument, and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast IMHO.
Mexicans are sick and tired of Americans and their medical tourism coming down to Mexico for affordable health and dental care
Are they? They seem to be happy to take our money.
But the correct answer to the problem is passing the bill to the country of origin. That way the origin country is pressured to make things better.
Does it? I think Canadians have hospitals and they can use those. Not seeing the ugly.
I’m seeing you being slapped in the face with their point and just refusing to acknowledge it. Cringe AF.
Do you live in Spokane?
There is no context that provides for bad faith exchanges. And I don’t engage with bad faith actors other than to call them out. If you want respect and well reasoned engagement you have to provide the same or else people will ignore you, like I am going to do, or block you, which only exacerbates your echo chamber. Best of luck, Citizen.
lol. I was asking them because if they didn’t, I would explain why people from Idaho are a drain on Spokane’s healthcare. Instead, they ran away. Hilarious.
My friend, that was already explained in this thread. I think people just generally have a problem with denying people medical care for any reason.
“My friend” means “hey asshole”
Don’t be a dick. Also, not my fault they didn’t read the thread.
They clearly aren’t the kind of person who participates in rational conversation.
Ran away before learning. Lame.
And what, die? I think keeping people alive and preventing unnecessary deaths should be the priority first and foremost. Idaho should be made to improve their healthcare infrastructure, and then we can force them to stay in their state.
But as of right now, the idea of turning someone down at the hospital because their ID says a different state does not sit well with me.
Idaho needs to help Idahoans, and not push them onto another state.
Make Idaho great again!
Make Idaho reasonably sustainable for the first time!! ;)
So... Nobody should work across state lines... In the "United" states... Doesn't sound very United.
Work? Not what I said, but feel free to create your own narrative while I ignore you.
If people work across state lines, or travel at all, they need hospital services. You didn't say it, but a moment of thought would have revealed the implications.
If they are in the state and have an emergency, fine. But anything else they really need to burden their own tax payers.
Ok so why not just federalize health and bypass this me me meeeeee histrionic problem?
I’m fine with that as long as states don’t get to make laws that affect federal hospitals thereby pushing people to other states to create an unneeded burden on the out of state hospital.
Just... Pay for capacity in your population centers in some equitable way.
OH, OH!!! you could run for healthcare as a public service instead of a profit center 🤡
I don’t think you know what a hospital looks like when it is over capacity 🤡 but keep on talking like you know stuff.
Yeah I make a point to avoid backwater 3rd world countries like the USA
If the hospitals in Washington are routinely over capacity, then thats a Washington problem. People have the freedom here to seek treatment wherever they would like to.
And everyone has to pay, inside or outside the state. Noone gets out of medical debt just by crossing state lines.
Every hospital in the world has a capacity they can support. You must be saying “they need a bigger hospital!” Which I’m sure they are aware of, but building that and staffing that isn’t always feasible with the budget they are given.
And not everyone has to pay. The hospital there is a charity and provides care regardless of the ability for the patient to pay—which cuts into that budget for more staffing and buildings.
During Covid, Idaho pretty much threw their hands up and said “go to Spokane” where people were lining the halls on beds dying because they didn’t have enough respirators for that many people.
So, it’s a common opinion in Spokane that Idaho needs to fuck off and take care of their own.
They can go to their own hospitals instead of placing the burden on Washington
Sure. But this is kinda just accelerationism/xenophobia, no? For example, replace "Idaho" with "Mexico" in your argument, and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast IMHO.
Mexicans are sick and tired of Americans and their medical tourism coming down to Mexico for affordable health and dental care
Are they? They seem to be happy to take our money.
But the correct answer to the problem is passing the bill to the country of origin. That way the origin country is pressured to make things better.
Does it? I think Canadians have hospitals and they can use those. Not seeing the ugly.
I’m seeing you being slapped in the face with their point and just refusing to acknowledge it. Cringe AF.
Do you live in Spokane?
There is no context that provides for bad faith exchanges. And I don’t engage with bad faith actors other than to call them out. If you want respect and well reasoned engagement you have to provide the same or else people will ignore you, like I am going to do, or block you, which only exacerbates your echo chamber. Best of luck, Citizen.
lol. I was asking them because if they didn’t, I would explain why people from Idaho are a drain on Spokane’s healthcare. Instead, they ran away. Hilarious.
My friend, that was already explained in this thread. I think people just generally have a problem with denying people medical care for any reason.
“My friend” means “hey asshole”
Don’t be a dick. Also, not my fault they didn’t read the thread.
They clearly aren’t the kind of person who participates in rational conversation.
Ran away before learning. Lame.
And what, die? I think keeping people alive and preventing unnecessary deaths should be the priority first and foremost. Idaho should be made to improve their healthcare infrastructure, and then we can force them to stay in their state.
But as of right now, the idea of turning someone down at the hospital because their ID says a different state does not sit well with me.
Idaho needs to help Idahoans, and not push them onto another state.
Make Idaho great again!
Make Idaho reasonably sustainable for the first time!! ;)
So... Nobody should work across state lines... In the "United" states... Doesn't sound very United.
Work? Not what I said, but feel free to create your own narrative while I ignore you.
If people work across state lines, or travel at all, they need hospital services. You didn't say it, but a moment of thought would have revealed the implications.
If they are in the state and have an emergency, fine. But anything else they really need to burden their own tax payers.
Ok so why not just federalize health and bypass this me me meeeeee histrionic problem?
I’m fine with that as long as states don’t get to make laws that affect federal hospitals thereby pushing people to other states to create an unneeded burden on the out of state hospital.
Just... Pay for capacity in your population centers in some equitable way.
OH, OH!!! you could run for healthcare as a public service instead of a profit center 🤡
I don’t think you know what a hospital looks like when it is over capacity 🤡 but keep on talking like you know stuff.
Yeah I make a point to avoid backwater 3rd world countries like the USA
Where do you live?
If the hospitals in Washington are routinely over capacity, then thats a Washington problem. People have the freedom here to seek treatment wherever they would like to.
And everyone has to pay, inside or outside the state. Noone gets out of medical debt just by crossing state lines.
Every hospital in the world has a capacity they can support. You must be saying “they need a bigger hospital!” Which I’m sure they are aware of, but building that and staffing that isn’t always feasible with the budget they are given.
And not everyone has to pay. The hospital there is a charity and provides care regardless of the ability for the patient to pay—which cuts into that budget for more staffing and buildings.
During Covid, Idaho pretty much threw their hands up and said “go to Spokane” where people were lining the halls on beds dying because they didn’t have enough respirators for that many people.
So, it’s a common opinion in Spokane that Idaho needs to fuck off and take care of their own.