Yeah, and it’s sad bro. I put about 900 hours into Elite: Dangerous, which I enjoyed a great deal, but it still left me longing for something with more depth. Back then I thought Star Citizen would be the next leap forward in my career as a space trucker who dabbles in bounty hunting and deep space exploration. I wanted to have games worthy of justifying a home cockpit setup, and now it seems like a lost cause.
I really hope someone picks up the torch. Even if it’s just Frontier making a generational leap with the Elite IP.
Elite:Dangerous is sad for its own reasons, too, and I have a similar count of hours logged. Glacial pace of development and a lack of strong game design / sense for balance. I'm still stunned by how much of a selling point the background simulation was, and how limited it actually is in practice (it did get some love over the years, but far too little too late IMO.)
I really wanted to like it, but it just never scratched the itch when I played it. I love stuff like freespace 2, but E:D just never did it for me. Which sucks, because the community search thing sounded really fun at the time.
It annoyingly needs a more complex HOTAS to properly play than most cheap entry-level ones have, while also not having ENOUGH complex need to justify me pulling my godamn keyboard over for
Literally the main reason I don't play it even though slapping my quest 2 on and space VR flying is fucking fun
you can try X4: Foundations ^^
The controls in X4 are so horrible though.
Good lord if that ain't the truth.
It has every opportunity to be good, but I can't even navigate the goddamn menus, let alone step into my ship.
Forget about using something other than a mouse and keyboard too, it just won't work.
Yeah, I never even bought it after reading the reviews about how janky it is, I want to use a HOTAS and rudder pedals and it doesn’t sound possible in X4
I play it with hotas and it works fine. You'll absolutely still want to keep a keyboard and mouse handy though because the RTS/management half of the game is really not that well controlled with a flight stick.
Like any of these games, you need to change the key bindings.
I have a set that I use in all space sim. What I am trying to say is that the control can be the same as any other space sim.
This type of game might not be your kind of stuff.
No, X is absolutely my type of game. Don't blame me for the horrible controls and menus, I didn't create that hot mess. It's also a well complained about part of the game.
I couldn't find a way to bind a double press in X4, so hold RB and tap X for example. These combinations are essential because there is no other way to use a controller to perform all of the necessary controls. It's a shame because I would have invested a lot into the game if that was surmountable.
Steam might be able to bind that. But then you're probably going to need a diagram next to you while you play so you remember all your controls.
I tried binding in Steam but the controller settings in Steam are kind of terrible too. Half the time I don't know what a setting does, and I feel like I need to do a training course to understand it. So I gave up and went back to Elite.
I don't blame you. Over the years I've seen some really impressive controller setting though. You can do a lot things with the steam settings. But yeah, you need to want to really invest in learning how to do it, and then actually remembering what you've set.
What part do you feel is horrible? I enjoyed playing it a lot.
The controls and menus.
I play with an HOTAS, so controls are the same as in Star Citizen for me
I remember how awesome Distant Worlds was, as a community event, and I wish I appreciated it more at the time. 65000 light years and back, I even bought a T-shirt and coin to commemorate the event lol
o7
My big in game accomplishment was making it to SagA*, I spent some time in colonia and joined a discord of nerds that hung out there getting big exploration creds. I actually made the trek all the way back to the bubble after spending about a month in the galactic core. It was an epic adventure in my mind, but afterwards it was hard to be motivated for the engineering grind.
I haven't played E:D so I can't really make comparisons, but maybe X3/X4 can pique your interest?
I don't think they can justify a home cockpit setup, they're also kinda hard to get into (especially X3, you can't get far without a guide), but hey, there's a combined 1.5% chance that you haven't heard of them and that you'll enjoy at least one of them if you don't care much about graphics. Or voice acting. Or UI/UX.
X3 is a fun game, with a very developed universe (you'll see factions conduct invasion in real-time as you do your own thing) with a wide variety of gameplay. The universe of X3 honestly makes Star Citizen seems like a theme park for children.
That being said it is extremely difficult to get into them both because there are so many gameplay options and the UI/UX is subpar (prepare to be constantly fiddling with menu and looking up how to execute a given course of action).
Yeah, and it’s sad bro. I put about 900 hours into Elite: Dangerous, which I enjoyed a great deal, but it still left me longing for something with more depth. Back then I thought Star Citizen would be the next leap forward in my career as a space trucker who dabbles in bounty hunting and deep space exploration. I wanted to have games worthy of justifying a home cockpit setup, and now it seems like a lost cause.
I really hope someone picks up the torch. Even if it’s just Frontier making a generational leap with the Elite IP.
Elite:Dangerous is sad for its own reasons, too, and I have a similar count of hours logged. Glacial pace of development and a lack of strong game design / sense for balance. I'm still stunned by how much of a selling point the background simulation was, and how limited it actually is in practice (it did get some love over the years, but far too little too late IMO.)
I really wanted to like it, but it just never scratched the itch when I played it. I love stuff like freespace 2, but E:D just never did it for me. Which sucks, because the community search thing sounded really fun at the time.
It annoyingly needs a more complex HOTAS to properly play than most cheap entry-level ones have, while also not having ENOUGH complex need to justify me pulling my godamn keyboard over for
Literally the main reason I don't play it even though slapping my quest 2 on and space VR flying is fucking fun
you can try X4: Foundations ^^
The controls in X4 are so horrible though.
Good lord if that ain't the truth.
It has every opportunity to be good, but I can't even navigate the goddamn menus, let alone step into my ship.
Forget about using something other than a mouse and keyboard too, it just won't work.
Yeah, I never even bought it after reading the reviews about how janky it is, I want to use a HOTAS and rudder pedals and it doesn’t sound possible in X4
I play it with hotas and it works fine. You'll absolutely still want to keep a keyboard and mouse handy though because the RTS/management half of the game is really not that well controlled with a flight stick.
Like any of these games, you need to change the key bindings.
I have a set that I use in all space sim. What I am trying to say is that the control can be the same as any other space sim.
This type of game might not be your kind of stuff.
No, X is absolutely my type of game. Don't blame me for the horrible controls and menus, I didn't create that hot mess. It's also a well complained about part of the game.
I couldn't find a way to bind a double press in X4, so hold RB and tap X for example. These combinations are essential because there is no other way to use a controller to perform all of the necessary controls. It's a shame because I would have invested a lot into the game if that was surmountable.
Steam might be able to bind that. But then you're probably going to need a diagram next to you while you play so you remember all your controls.
I tried binding in Steam but the controller settings in Steam are kind of terrible too. Half the time I don't know what a setting does, and I feel like I need to do a training course to understand it. So I gave up and went back to Elite.
I don't blame you. Over the years I've seen some really impressive controller setting though. You can do a lot things with the steam settings. But yeah, you need to want to really invest in learning how to do it, and then actually remembering what you've set.
What part do you feel is horrible? I enjoyed playing it a lot.
The controls and menus.
I play with an HOTAS, so controls are the same as in Star Citizen for me
I remember how awesome Distant Worlds was, as a community event, and I wish I appreciated it more at the time. 65000 light years and back, I even bought a T-shirt and coin to commemorate the event lol o7
My big in game accomplishment was making it to SagA*, I spent some time in colonia and joined a discord of nerds that hung out there getting big exploration creds. I actually made the trek all the way back to the bubble after spending about a month in the galactic core. It was an epic adventure in my mind, but afterwards it was hard to be motivated for the engineering grind.
I haven't played E:D so I can't really make comparisons, but maybe X3/X4 can pique your interest?
I don't think they can justify a home cockpit setup, they're also kinda hard to get into (especially X3, you can't get far without a guide), but hey, there's a combined 1.5% chance that you haven't heard of them and that you'll enjoy at least one of them if you don't care much about graphics. Or voice acting. Or UI/UX.
X3 is a fun game, with a very developed universe (you'll see factions conduct invasion in real-time as you do your own thing) with a wide variety of gameplay. The universe of X3 honestly makes Star Citizen seems like a theme park for children.
That being said it is extremely difficult to get into them both because there are so many gameplay options and the UI/UX is subpar (prepare to be constantly fiddling with menu and looking up how to execute a given course of action).