In my opinion even if he changes his mind and tries to backtrack, the damage is done, for sure.
They've already shown their hand, so why should anyone trust them again even if they did backtrack? They've proven they don't care about us and are willing to go back on their words if it benefits them. I don't see any restoration of community faith in Reddit's administration.
Because 90% of their users don't care about APIs or 3rd party apps, they just want the content however reddit makes them consume it.
This is correct. Most people I've spoken with are still willing to stick it out with reddit. The communities don't really exist elsewhere, and it's fun to scroll through a big thread with 1k comments sometimes. Something like r/NBA can't just pop up here or anywhere else. RSS + Lemmy is what I'm trying for the time being so we will see.
Those people never left to begin with.
Yeah. There's no backtracking now. The reputation is tainted.
For us that are making the switch. Unfortunately too many fishes these days.
Reddit has been crappy for years now, and a lot of people have wanted to leave but didn't have anywhere to go. Now that there's somewhere else, people will continue to trickle out as they get tired of it. It doesn't need to all happen at once -- in fact, reddit doesn't need to shut down. It just needs viable alternatives with a critical community mass, and we're there now.
and we’re there now.
And, just thing- give it a few months (and a lot more contributors / developers...) and this platform can become REAL competition for reddit.
As I see it currently though, there are a lot of unresolved issues before it becomes more mainstream. But, hey, I have posted here almost exclusively today, other then telling a few redditors about lemmy,.
There's a private subreddit I'm a member of that I'll probably stick around for a while on. It's one where they kick people out if they don't participate for a week, so I'll have an interesting sample of how many active redditors are leaving.
That, sounds interesting.
There a leaderboard of longest members?
Exactly. The explosion of users in the last week, caused by them, has cemented that. It will get exponentially worse come July 1st.
What he didn't bank on is a lot of power users were already getting sick of wading through ads and dealing with mass idiocy. I mean, mass idiocy will move with the masses, you can't really get away from it. But add a power-hungry megalomaniac to the mix of an already irritated user base, and it's not pretty. Frankly, Reddit can keep the kind of users who are willing to stay there. Hopefully that will keep other communities cleaner.
For sure. Spez would need to resign for me to recover any trust with reddit.
He’d have to be ousted by the board.
He will. No doubt in my mind that he's not competent enough to lead through the IPO and beyond.
To me it seems as he's being set up as the fall guy right now, similar to Pao
And even so, it might just be another Ellen Pao situation where it's just a gesture to please everyone, meanwhile the new CEO keeps making things worse.
100% would be. they wanna go public and cash in, it's only a matter of time.
I'm not going back unless all this is undone and spez is removed, and rif comes back. But even then, but it won't be like before. I'll never participate like I did. I deleted rif on the 11th in anticipation of the shuttering.
In my opinion even if he changes his mind and tries to backtrack, the damage is done, for sure.
They've already shown their hand, so why should anyone trust them again even if they did backtrack? They've proven they don't care about us and are willing to go back on their words if it benefits them. I don't see any restoration of community faith in Reddit's administration.
Because 90% of their users don't care about APIs or 3rd party apps, they just want the content however reddit makes them consume it.
This is correct. Most people I've spoken with are still willing to stick it out with reddit. The communities don't really exist elsewhere, and it's fun to scroll through a big thread with 1k comments sometimes. Something like r/NBA can't just pop up here or anywhere else. RSS + Lemmy is what I'm trying for the time being so we will see.
Those people never left to begin with.
Yeah. There's no backtracking now. The reputation is tainted.
For us that are making the switch. Unfortunately too many fishes these days.
Reddit has been crappy for years now, and a lot of people have wanted to leave but didn't have anywhere to go. Now that there's somewhere else, people will continue to trickle out as they get tired of it. It doesn't need to all happen at once -- in fact, reddit doesn't need to shut down. It just needs viable alternatives with a critical community mass, and we're there now.
And, just thing- give it a few months (and a lot more contributors / developers...) and this platform can become REAL competition for reddit.
As I see it currently though, there are a lot of unresolved issues before it becomes more mainstream. But, hey, I have posted here almost exclusively today, other then telling a few redditors about lemmy,.
There's a private subreddit I'm a member of that I'll probably stick around for a while on. It's one where they kick people out if they don't participate for a week, so I'll have an interesting sample of how many active redditors are leaving.
That, sounds interesting.
There a leaderboard of longest members?
Exactly. The explosion of users in the last week, caused by them, has cemented that. It will get exponentially worse come July 1st.
What he didn't bank on is a lot of power users were already getting sick of wading through ads and dealing with mass idiocy. I mean, mass idiocy will move with the masses, you can't really get away from it. But add a power-hungry megalomaniac to the mix of an already irritated user base, and it's not pretty. Frankly, Reddit can keep the kind of users who are willing to stay there. Hopefully that will keep other communities cleaner.
For sure. Spez would need to resign for me to recover any trust with reddit.
He’d have to be ousted by the board.
He will. No doubt in my mind that he's not competent enough to lead through the IPO and beyond.
To me it seems as he's being set up as the fall guy right now, similar to Pao
And even so, it might just be another Ellen Pao situation where it's just a gesture to please everyone, meanwhile the new CEO keeps making things worse.
100% would be. they wanna go public and cash in, it's only a matter of time.
I'm not going back unless all this is undone and spez is removed, and rif comes back. But even then, but it won't be like before. I'll never participate like I did. I deleted rif on the 11th in anticipation of the shuttering.