Hawaii fires: 'Tourists swim in the waters we died in'
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The jarring contrast between those holidaying and those hurting is hard to bear for many in Hawaii.
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The loss of life is tragic, but I’m not sure what she’s upset about. Tourists didn’t come there to mock or make light. They just have bad timing in paradise.
Tourism will play a huge part in helping the community recover economically too. They’re going to need tourists to stay/come back asap. I thought the Greek president was canny to offer tourists affected by the wildfires in Rhodes a free holiday next year.
I hear the challenge right now is that even before the fire there was a housing shortage. Tourists should not travel to Hawaii right now if those hotel beds can instead be used to shelter displaces people near term.
Ya exactly. "It's okay if a local people are exploited by industry and country. It helps the economy" is such a terrible take and I genuinely don't know why people here are defending it
Is it always exploitation? Couldn’t an argument be made that tourists in tourist areas are the ones being exploited?
@NewNewAccount @tdawg
No.
No what? We’re not making the same argument.
@NewNewAccount
You asked two questions.
No responds to both.
I was thinking more along the lines of a large proportion of locals must work in the tourist industry - whether that’s owning hotels, working in them, owning touristy shops, tour guides, surf instructors etc etc. The locals haven’t just suffered loss of life, property and sites of historic importance, a lot of them will lose their jobs without tourism. “Economy” was the wrong term I guess. People need those jobs not just to live but to rebuild their lives and their property.
@SomeoneElse @tdawg
I'm hoping that the Hawaii and Maui gov'ts don't allow rich people to grab the land afterwards, instead allocating all of it to traditional Hawaiian people.
I mean it's already being reported in the news that this is a fear.
https://fortune.com/2023/08/13/maui-wildfire-destruction-locals-fear-rebuilding-will-favor-rich-outsiders/?ref=biztoc.com
I don't think destroying the Hawaiian economy would help the homeless problem in Hawaii. If anything, what needs to be happening is that the Hawaiian government needs to set up temporary housing and support rebuilding efforts.
I am not saying there should not be any tourism. I am saying that near term, there is likely a shelter need that needs to be addressed. Putting tourism on hold for a few months won't kill tourism. Hawaii shut down for the pandemic and had very strict Covid requirements as the world re opened. I think it can shut down for a few weeks until more aid and support arrives and is built.
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. Yeah, for a few weeks, absolutely, the government should be buying up vacant hotel rooms in bulk while they arrange temporary housing
NP. My take was very quick and short. I think tourism will likely always be a big part of Hawaii's recovery, and will help the recovery. But I just want to know that the workers and people that live in hawaii have roofs over their heads when things re open.
I mean we can all sympathise. We know why she's upset. If she took more than a couple of minutes to calm down, she'll argue herself that the country needs tourists and that they can't be blamed for wanting to make the most of their holidays.
Out of personal experience, it's incredibly frustrating to see people happy and smiling when your whole world is collapsing around you. It's irrational but it makes sense.
And without tourists Hawaii would probably be even more expensive.
@TragicNotCute @stopthatgirl7
Tourists should have left, like they were supposed to, or not visited days after the fire.
It's not that hard a choice to make to do the right and kind thing here. But instead those tourists chose the selfish way.
Are tourists being offered refunds on their flights and lodging?
@Staccato
Have you asked the airlines?