when government banned them for a good reasons (in this case probably violence and antisemitism) they are unauthorized.
They did the same for the anti vaccer dipshits of the "querdenker" movement during the corona pandemic.
Yeah, love all the armchair political commentators on lemmy. I live in Berlin, what's happening in the Neukölln district of Berlin has nothing to do with peaceful protests. It's a whole bunch of "kill all Jews" mixed with a hefty dose of "burn it all!", and somehow it's always a giant mob of violent men in their twenties, who aren't exactly paragon of empathy and diversity, imagine that.
Just wanted to say, having an actual informed perspective here is really appreciated.
Every authoritarian government always has good reasons to ban demonstrations.
Ah yes, the authoritarian government of current day checks.notes Germany?
Fascism is what you do, not who you are.
These "protesters" are the actual fascists. They literally parrot ideas and shout slogans which were popular among the NSDAP, and throw molotov cocktails at synagogues.
Last time a German democracy accepted a movement like this as an equal among other political ideas, we ended up with the Third Reich.
Well, yeah, advocacy for genocide isn't exactly something a functional democracy should tolerate.
Voicing your preference to have a state of Palestine that is not occupied by a different country is not quite the same thing as advocacy for genocide. Germans fought long and hard for their right to demonstrate.
Sure. But they're not protesting for a two-state solution, they're cheering on Hamas.
That’s something that should definitely be kept under control. But denying Palestine events just because they’re Palestine (also happening in Germany) is something I can’t support.
„Bei gravierenden Ereignissen, welche die Öffentliche Sicherheit oder Gesundheit gefährden, können Regierungen Notstandsgesetze anwenden, welche neben der Versammlungsfreiheit auch das Demonstrationsrecht einschränken. Die Einschränkungen der Versammlungsfreiheit und des Demonstrationsrechts während der Corona-Krise sind jedoch Einschränkungen einzelner Grundrechte und nicht mit den Notstandsgesetzen zu verwechseln, die weiter gefasst sind. Diese Gesetze wurden am 28. Juni 1968 verabschiedet, Anwendung fanden sie bislang noch nie.[2][3]“
Authorities had banned such protests, which have been called in response to the conflict between Israel and Hamas, the militant group which killed around 1,400 Israelis in a terrorist attack two weeks ago.
Some attendees used pyrotechnics, set fire to barricades and pelted police with stones and bottles, law enforcement said.
Berlin police chief Barbara Slowik told regional broadcaster RBB that the situation in Neukölln was "tense."
The incident comes after after two Molotov cocktails were thrown at a Jewish community center in Berlin in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Separately on Wednesday night, another gathering against violence in the Middle East was held outside the Foreign Office in Berlin.
Pro-Palestinian protests were also held in other German cities influding Frankfurt, where police used water cannons, and in Nuremberg.
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reminds me of: "Fiery, but mostly peaceful protests"
except, they were celebrated and encouraged by every mainstream entity.
as long as the protests don't engage in violence, I see no problem
I can't believe how many hate freedom, it's disappointing
Not exactly sure how you meant that. To be safe, let's remind ourselves of the paradox of tolerance.
To remain a free society, we have to protect the freedom to exist for all participants, which excludes the freedom to stir up hate and cause violence, or to throw molotov cocktails against synagogues. Your freedom ends where my freedom begins.
"Unauthorized demonstration". Ah, democracy.
when government banned them for a good reasons (in this case probably violence and antisemitism) they are unauthorized.
They did the same for the anti vaccer dipshits of the "querdenker" movement during the corona pandemic.
Yeah, love all the armchair political commentators on lemmy. I live in Berlin, what's happening in the Neukölln district of Berlin has nothing to do with peaceful protests. It's a whole bunch of "kill all Jews" mixed with a hefty dose of "burn it all!", and somehow it's always a giant mob of violent men in their twenties, who aren't exactly paragon of empathy and diversity, imagine that.
Just wanted to say, having an actual informed perspective here is really appreciated.
Every authoritarian government always has good reasons to ban demonstrations.
Ah yes, the authoritarian government of current day checks.notes Germany?
Fascism is what you do, not who you are.
These "protesters" are the actual fascists. They literally parrot ideas and shout slogans which were popular among the NSDAP, and throw molotov cocktails at synagogues.
Last time a German democracy accepted a movement like this as an equal among other political ideas, we ended up with the Third Reich.
Well, yeah, advocacy for genocide isn't exactly something a functional democracy should tolerate.
Voicing your preference to have a state of Palestine that is not occupied by a different country is not quite the same thing as advocacy for genocide. Germans fought long and hard for their right to demonstrate.
Sure. But they're not protesting for a two-state solution, they're cheering on Hamas.
That’s something that should definitely be kept under control. But denying Palestine events just because they’re Palestine (also happening in Germany) is something I can’t support.
Can I get an example for that?
Sure.
Never heard of that site and it seems their are very biased from the beginning, makes them not really trustworthy for me. Here is a different source https://www.dw.com/en/berlin-police-break-up-banned-pro-palestinian-rally/a-67104373
„Bei gravierenden Ereignissen, welche die Öffentliche Sicherheit oder Gesundheit gefährden, können Regierungen Notstandsgesetze anwenden, welche neben der Versammlungsfreiheit auch das Demonstrationsrecht einschränken. Die Einschränkungen der Versammlungsfreiheit und des Demonstrationsrechts während der Corona-Krise sind jedoch Einschränkungen einzelner Grundrechte und nicht mit den Notstandsgesetzen zu verwechseln, die weiter gefasst sind. Diese Gesetze wurden am 28. Juni 1968 verabschiedet, Anwendung fanden sie bislang noch nie.[2][3]“
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration
Ich glaube, irgendwer versteht das Wort "Grundrechte" nicht, und ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, wer es ist, tippe aber auf die Regierung.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Authorities had banned such protests, which have been called in response to the conflict between Israel and Hamas, the militant group which killed around 1,400 Israelis in a terrorist attack two weeks ago.
Some attendees used pyrotechnics, set fire to barricades and pelted police with stones and bottles, law enforcement said.
Berlin police chief Barbara Slowik told regional broadcaster RBB that the situation in Neukölln was "tense."
The incident comes after after two Molotov cocktails were thrown at a Jewish community center in Berlin in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Separately on Wednesday night, another gathering against violence in the Middle East was held outside the Foreign Office in Berlin.
Pro-Palestinian protests were also held in other German cities influding Frankfurt, where police used water cannons, and in Nuremberg.
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reminds me of: "Fiery, but mostly peaceful protests"
except, they were celebrated and encouraged by every mainstream entity.
as long as the protests don't engage in violence, I see no problem
I can't believe how many hate freedom, it's disappointing
Not exactly sure how you meant that. To be safe, let's remind ourselves of the paradox of tolerance.
To remain a free society, we have to protect the freedom to exist for all participants, which excludes the freedom to stir up hate and cause violence, or to throw molotov cocktails against synagogues. Your freedom ends where my freedom begins.
Unauthorized, Herr Deutchland? Papers please.
So much for freedom