The beatings have been upgraded to shootings due to even poorer morale.
Great success!!
As long as you're shooting the people with the least morale, average morale will increase. Unless every else's morale suffers as a result of the shootings, but second-order effects are out-of-scope for the purpose of this review.
Cool, do the ex KGB agent that refused to accept they lost the cold war.
Ukraine should award them medals for all these enemy kills.
That's nothing new...
You don’t say
Russians have had hundreds of years of purges to smarten up, and they simply refuse to, so they let their state take their lives, instead of rising up against Putin, the Kremlin, the FSB, and fighting for them.
So... like always? When has Russia not done this?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Thursday said Russia is executing soldiers who have failed to follow orders and threatening entire units with death if they retreat from Ukrainian artillery fire.
In the past, the administration has said it has acted to disclose the intelligence to highlight plans for Russian misinformation and other activity so allies remain clear-eyed about Moscow’s intent and Russia thinks twice before carrying out an operation.
Kirby pointed to the information as he renewed a plea for Congress to pass a nearly $106 billion supplemental funding request that Biden unveiled last week.
So to ensure that we can continue to do that it’s critical that Congress step up and pass the supplemental requests that the president put forward last week.”
The contract soldiers were pulled out of Ukraine after their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, mounted an armed rebellion in June.
There also have been reports, including from the British Defense Ministry, that the regular Russian military has deployed “barrier troops” that threaten to shoot any deserters.
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Isn't that their doctrine
They trying to get out of bad morale check throw, or what?
The fewer of them, the better.
I love it when fascists murder each other!
I mean, it's fascists murdering likely conscripted soldiers for refusing to go along with the fascists....
I doubt that distinction makes any difference to the Ukrainians who are defending their country from genocidal murderers.
There are videos of conscripts voluntarily giving themselves up to the AFU. It makes a difference
The ones who were executed declined to surrender while on Ukrainian territory. They also could have refused to serve and gone to prison instead, but they didn't. These gopniks knew what they were getting involved in and they deserve what they got.
You realize you can't just go surrender, right? You will get shot in the back by the other Russians unless everyone is surrendering
They also could have refused to serve and gone to prison instead, but they didn’t
Some of these are 19 year old kids, they had no idea what they were getting themselves into. If they declined to fight when they got to the front line, yes, it's too late, but it's fucked up to just straight up execute them
I'd like to think if I somehow ended up in this situation, and I knew they would just kill me for not following orders and i wasnt going to follow them, that'd I'd just kill whoever the top ranking person in the unit is who'd execute me and then kill myself.
But maybe they don't realize they'll be executed when this happens, I dunno.
Apparently that's happened, the guy who donated the helicopter had to a kill a few people to pull it off
Ya, that one's a little different as he'd already escaped in essence.
If you're in the trenches or on the front line or whatever, you aren't going to survive the mutiny.
I'd be worried about them torturing instead of killing me once I started shooting in my own people, hence the intention to kill myself after to ensure it was quick and painless.
To get to that position he had to kill the rest of the crew. Notice it was only one guy and one helicopter, nobody else came with him
I thought he killed them once they landed? I remember reading they were confused about their location before he shot them.
Oh, I missed that detail. Anyway, my point is it's not easy to just turn yourself in, you need to be a good soldier just to surrender!
I'm sure you'd feel the same way about this distinction between nice Russian occupiers and bad Russian occupiers if it was your country they were invading, your culture they were destroying, and your democratic rights they were taking away. It's incredibly naive.
If I was in that scenario, I would be more emotionally charged about the subject and rightfully so. But that doesn't rewrite the facts of the situation- that this distinction is correct.
Misunderstanding your enemy is never a good idea, as it's important to know what makes them tick. If they were all compliant fascists, that changes what kind of tactics are used to break their morale and even have a portion surrender, compared to being conscripts who don't even believe in what they're fighting for.
The beatings have been upgraded to shootings due to even poorer morale.
Great success!!
As long as you're shooting the people with the least morale, average morale will increase. Unless every else's morale suffers as a result of the shootings, but second-order effects are out-of-scope for the purpose of this review.
Cool, do the ex KGB agent that refused to accept they lost the cold war.
Ukraine should award them medals for all these enemy kills.
That's nothing new...
You don’t say
Russians have had hundreds of years of purges to smarten up, and they simply refuse to, so they let their state take their lives, instead of rising up against Putin, the Kremlin, the FSB, and fighting for them.
So... like always? When has Russia not done this?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Thursday said Russia is executing soldiers who have failed to follow orders and threatening entire units with death if they retreat from Ukrainian artillery fire.
In the past, the administration has said it has acted to disclose the intelligence to highlight plans for Russian misinformation and other activity so allies remain clear-eyed about Moscow’s intent and Russia thinks twice before carrying out an operation.
Kirby pointed to the information as he renewed a plea for Congress to pass a nearly $106 billion supplemental funding request that Biden unveiled last week.
So to ensure that we can continue to do that it’s critical that Congress step up and pass the supplemental requests that the president put forward last week.”
The contract soldiers were pulled out of Ukraine after their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, mounted an armed rebellion in June.
There also have been reports, including from the British Defense Ministry, that the regular Russian military has deployed “barrier troops” that threaten to shoot any deserters.
The original article contains 484 words, the summary contains 170 words. Saved 65%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Isn't that their doctrine
They trying to get out of bad morale check throw, or what?
The fewer of them, the better.
I love it when fascists murder each other!
I mean, it's fascists murdering likely conscripted soldiers for refusing to go along with the fascists....
I doubt that distinction makes any difference to the Ukrainians who are defending their country from genocidal murderers.
There are videos of conscripts voluntarily giving themselves up to the AFU. It makes a difference
The ones who were executed declined to surrender while on Ukrainian territory. They also could have refused to serve and gone to prison instead, but they didn't. These gopniks knew what they were getting involved in and they deserve what they got.
You realize you can't just go surrender, right? You will get shot in the back by the other Russians unless everyone is surrendering
Some of these are 19 year old kids, they had no idea what they were getting themselves into. If they declined to fight when they got to the front line, yes, it's too late, but it's fucked up to just straight up execute them
I'd like to think if I somehow ended up in this situation, and I knew they would just kill me for not following orders and i wasnt going to follow them, that'd I'd just kill whoever the top ranking person in the unit is who'd execute me and then kill myself.
But maybe they don't realize they'll be executed when this happens, I dunno.
Apparently that's happened, the guy who donated the helicopter had to a kill a few people to pull it off
Ya, that one's a little different as he'd already escaped in essence.
If you're in the trenches or on the front line or whatever, you aren't going to survive the mutiny.
I'd be worried about them torturing instead of killing me once I started shooting in my own people, hence the intention to kill myself after to ensure it was quick and painless.
To get to that position he had to kill the rest of the crew. Notice it was only one guy and one helicopter, nobody else came with him
I thought he killed them once they landed? I remember reading they were confused about their location before he shot them.
Oh, I missed that detail. Anyway, my point is it's not easy to just turn yourself in, you need to be a good soldier just to surrender!
I'm sure you'd feel the same way about this distinction between nice Russian occupiers and bad Russian occupiers if it was your country they were invading, your culture they were destroying, and your democratic rights they were taking away. It's incredibly naive.
If I was in that scenario, I would be more emotionally charged about the subject and rightfully so. But that doesn't rewrite the facts of the situation- that this distinction is correct.
Misunderstanding your enemy is never a good idea, as it's important to know what makes them tick. If they were all compliant fascists, that changes what kind of tactics are used to break their morale and even have a portion surrender, compared to being conscripts who don't even believe in what they're fighting for.
But it is my country