Haley, DeSantis neck and neck for second in Iowa, Trump maintains wide lead: Poll

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Haley, DeSantis neck and neck for second in Iowa, Trump maintains wide lead: Poll
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If Repubs were smart they’d nominate Haley. There’s a LOT of people who can’t stand Trump or Trump lite (desantis) but would be willing to vote for Haley over Biden. I predict that if by some sort of miracle Haley turns into the presumptive Repub nominee Biden drops out and Newsom becomes the Dems nominee.

Newsom is a lot less likable than he appears. I'd rather go with Biden than Newsom. When people find out he did things like veto a bill that capped the price of insulin, he's going to be a lot more unpopular than he is now.

And then there were these vetoes- https://www.advocate.com/law/gavin-newsom-vetoes-lgbtq-bills

I don't get why people keep trying to boost Newsom. He has no chance. There are plenty of democrats who could do a better job in an election than him.

Don’t let perfection get in the way of progress.

I'm just explaining why Newsom wouldn't be as popular as people might think.

That argument applies to Biden too.

Biden at least has had empowering unions as his legacy and that is where the real base of democratic power has historically been from, it's where most progressive policies originally spawned and where future change might be demanded. He's setting up the future for a lot more collective action. But it remains to be seen if that's the right call. But it's not a bad tactical decision, it's one for the future.

Add to that his environmental green new deal policies in the infrastructure bill, and he hasn't been a bad president.

Biden at least has had empowering unions as his legacy and that is where the real base of democratic power has historically been from,

He has, and I'm glad for that. The stain for Biden blocking the Railroad union strike last year leaves bad taste in my mouth though.

It would have been one thing if Biden blocked the strike, but forced Railroad companies to adopt some of the basic demands (like paid sick time for goodness sake!). Instead he blocked the strike granting none of the workers demands and calls for rail safety. Yes, months later railroad workers did get a small number of sick days, but did so at other costs. The union was negotiating from a place of weakness because the railroad companies knew the union was left toothless by Biden.

Agreed. I’d also just really like to have a choice of someone who will be alive in 10 years to see the results of the policies they make. Given the two current front runners, that’s very unlikely.

Can we stop with the fucking polls already?

The Biggest Loser wasn't a hit TV show because it was about presidential politics.

But there really isn't a second place lol that just means they lose

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The polling is notable as DeSantis and the super PAC supporting him have largely staked out their presence in Iowa.

“Among registered Republicans, Trump leads with 52%, compared to 16% for Haley and 14% for DeSantis – independents show a closer contest, with Trump at 43%, Haley at 25%, and DeSantis at 15%,” Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling, explained in a press release.

“These numbers suggest that Trump will perform better in closed primary states where only registered Republicans can vote.”

“Haley has made inroads with female voters where she trails Trump 47% to 20% (27 point difference) as compared with males who break for Trump 53% to 15% (38 point difference) for Haley,” Kimball said.

Though the CBS News/YouGov poll shows Haley narrowing the gap in New Hampshire, Trump still holds a double-digit lead over her and DeSantis in both early states — raising questions about whether either will be able to keep the race competitive against the former president.

The Iowa GOP caucus subset has a survey size of 420 voters and a margin of error of plus or minus 4.7 percentage points.


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