Barbara on nextdoor on the 4th in America rule

Jimi_Hotsauce@kbin.social to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone – 162 points –
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Barbara is right though, fireworks are a stupid tradition that can be better served with drone light shows or projection displays. They look way cooler, better for the environment, and don't cause unnecessary stress for dogs and war survivors (soliders or civilians can suffer PTSD from war).

Fuck fireworks.

Served way better depends on what you're goal is. For some people, the loud bang is the whole point. We've got 2 days a year where we shoot off fireworks, and everyone knows when they are. Only the animals are surprised. If we argue about necessity well just end up in the kind of argument that can logically lead to voluntary extinction. The amount of environmental disruption we consider acceptable is a matter of opinion, but it ain't ever zero.

If we argue about necessity well just end up in the kind of argument that can logically lead to voluntary extinction.

This is doesn't make any sense and the strangest attempt at a red herring I've come across on Lemmy, there is no necessity. Period. It's still Independence Day whether or not you scare pets and veterans. You can celebrate with a BBQ like every other holiday. Basically you typed a lot of words just to say you don't care how your actions effect others, or that your two seconds of pleasure is worth the well being of animals and neighbors.

Who are you to dictate what is and isn’t appropriate way to celebrate?

Many people are considerate about it as well as take efforts to do it safely.

Yea you can celebrate in other ways, but then again, right back at you.

You ar absolutely right there is no necessity, shit there is no necessity tot he whole fucking holiday.

But if you look into the history of the fourth, you’ll see there are connections, not just tradition either.

I find this ironic because it can easily be reversed. Basically you typed a lot of words just to say you don’t care how or where the fireworks occur, bottom line they are bad

Can you drop the hyperbole and look at it rationally? Why is your stance “fuck all fireworks for the good of everyone”, and not “do it somewhere else”?

WE CAN ACCOMMODATE BOTH

I am impacted negatively by fireworks but I recognize that isn’t grounds to shout anyone down that isn’t negatively impacted. All I need is it just to not happen near my house. Simple as that

I just wish the people firing off the bang noise ones didn't do it near me. I switch to panic attack. Each bang is literal pain for me... Blehg I used to not be like this...

At least don't be the asshole that pops them off on any day that isn't the holiday in question.

Like, at least on the day of, there's sort of a tacit understanding for people with PTSD and nervous pets that THIS is the day to be prepared for and get through, so at least people know to be ready for it. Doing it on any other day and surprising them with it is such a self-centered, inconsiderate dickhead move.

Always blows my mind how much we hear red-blooded patriots go on about "the troops," just to go and celebrate their patriotism by stressing the shit out of all the veterans in their neighborhood.

It's a free country?

Everyone is free to be a dick. Still makes them a dick.

Try to remember who earned that freedom

Go next door and knock and just let them know you are going to be setting off fireworks. It isn’t that hard to be nice

I'm not sure how getting shelled by al-Qaeda earned your freedom. I think it just made people afraid of fireworks...

Except for the few thousand ww2 vets left no living American service member fought for anybody's freedom

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Still doesn’t mean you should be a dick and start setting off fireworks a week before the 4th

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Did Barbara consider its why we do what we do?

Fireworks suck. I didn't even like them as a kid.

Lol at OP getting roasted in the when they thought they were gonna do real numbers and getting pats on the back