“The complete inflexibility we see from the UK government today is baffling, frustrating, and ultimately destructive for everyone who wants waiting lists to go down and NHS staffing numbers to go up,” Laurenson and Trivedi added.
Maybe the Tory government doesn't want wait lists to go down, but want to adopt the US system instead...
That would be the UK's 2nd biggest mistake of the century.
Ribbit
It would suck if they lost it.
Charlie Chaplin talked about the difference in the country before and after the NHS. He said when he left that children were skinny and had rotten teeth. When he came back they were healthy.
As someone from Appalachia, that’s exactly what I seen growing up. It’s still like that today in some places deep in there.
It doesn’t have to be that way and I can’t imagine anyone willingly choosing to regress like that.
I hope we get this civilization thing right some day. It’s hard to have much hope when you see egos all around carrying on like the world is theirs and they’ll live forever.
Totally agree. It's a tendency in all European countries: national healthcare is seen as public expenditure negatively affecting national balance, and private clinics are on the rise. Let's hope, at least, that taxes will be cut as well, otherwise we'll end up with a system that has the worst of the European model combined with the worst of the American one.
Obligatory: Fuck the Tories.
The next general election can't come soon enough as labour look set to win it. Not that I have any faith that Starmer will do that good of a job of running the country but at least he won't be actively determined to ruin it like the Tories have proven themselves to be.
Hmm, but they have all that money they no longer have to send to the EU, that is now funding the NHS!?
/s
stop giving an end date to your strikes for fuck sake
It's different for doctors and nurses. We have moral and legal obligations to our patients. Giving an end date is often the first attempt. Indefinite strike is always an option that can be deployed later, if necessary.
Plus we're always in a precarious situation with the public. It's easy for a doctor's strike to lose public support, which results in things like strike breaking laws being passed.
There are different ways of striking that can be effective.
aye, fair enough. Pardon my ignorance
Thanks for understanding and being willing to learn new things. Cheers
♥️
Healthcare providers in general, but doctors especially have a sense of duty to their patients regardless of work conditions which are often unacceptable for both. One workaround I've seen mentioned for doctors in particular is to continue working, but stop making notes in the EHR or submitting billing which tends to get admins attention real quick without impacting patient care.
That sounds a lot like the Japanese transit protests. The lines still ran as normal but they refused to collect payment. Nobody impacted but the transit lines.
That’s a good system. It puts the consequences squarely where they belong, and only where they belong.
Most such tactics are explicitly illegal in the UK, unfortunately. Basically, the legal framework for labour strikes in the UK is set up to maximise inconvenience to the public and minimise the tools (and effectiveness of those tools) available to the workers and their unions.
That's not by accident either.
Does the title mean radiographers or radiologists? Both are pretty important to how smoothly a hospital runs, but only one is actually a doctor.
Maybe the Tory government doesn't want wait lists to go down, but want to adopt the US system instead...
That would be the UK's 2nd biggest mistake of the century.
Ribbit
It would suck if they lost it.
Charlie Chaplin talked about the difference in the country before and after the NHS. He said when he left that children were skinny and had rotten teeth. When he came back they were healthy.
As someone from Appalachia, that’s exactly what I seen growing up. It’s still like that today in some places deep in there.
It doesn’t have to be that way and I can’t imagine anyone willingly choosing to regress like that.
I hope we get this civilization thing right some day. It’s hard to have much hope when you see egos all around carrying on like the world is theirs and they’ll live forever.
Totally agree. It's a tendency in all European countries: national healthcare is seen as public expenditure negatively affecting national balance, and private clinics are on the rise. Let's hope, at least, that taxes will be cut as well, otherwise we'll end up with a system that has the worst of the European model combined with the worst of the American one.
Obligatory: Fuck the Tories.
The next general election can't come soon enough as labour look set to win it. Not that I have any faith that Starmer will do that good of a job of running the country but at least he won't be actively determined to ruin it like the Tories have proven themselves to be.
Hmm, but they have all that money they no longer have to send to the EU, that is now funding the NHS!?
/s
stop giving an end date to your strikes for fuck sake
It's different for doctors and nurses. We have moral and legal obligations to our patients. Giving an end date is often the first attempt. Indefinite strike is always an option that can be deployed later, if necessary.
Plus we're always in a precarious situation with the public. It's easy for a doctor's strike to lose public support, which results in things like strike breaking laws being passed.
There are different ways of striking that can be effective.
aye, fair enough. Pardon my ignorance
Thanks for understanding and being willing to learn new things. Cheers
♥️
Healthcare providers in general, but doctors especially have a sense of duty to their patients regardless of work conditions which are often unacceptable for both. One workaround I've seen mentioned for doctors in particular is to continue working, but stop making notes in the EHR or submitting billing which tends to get admins attention real quick without impacting patient care.
That sounds a lot like the Japanese transit protests. The lines still ran as normal but they refused to collect payment. Nobody impacted but the transit lines.
That’s a good system. It puts the consequences squarely where they belong, and only where they belong.
Most such tactics are explicitly illegal in the UK, unfortunately. Basically, the legal framework for labour strikes in the UK is set up to maximise inconvenience to the public and minimise the tools (and effectiveness of those tools) available to the workers and their unions.
That's not by accident either.
Does the title mean radiographers or radiologists? Both are pretty important to how smoothly a hospital runs, but only one is actually a doctor.
That's what the original tile is:
Radiographers https://www.england.nhs.uk/2023/07/strikes-will-cause-major-disruption-over-the-next-week-says-top-nhs-doctor/