Carmakers are failing the privacy test. Owners have little to no control of the data they hand over

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Carmakers are failing the privacy test. Owners have little to no control of the data they hand over
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Its sad. I LOVE the concept of smart devices, the fact that you can do things so much more conveniently with little interaction. They can absolutely be done without being privacy nightmares, but apparently companies are not interested in that.

And apparently neither are consumers

I don't care about my data. I have nothing to hide. Haha they can have my data if they want.

Literally everyone i know

You're missing the larger point. You dont have to have anything to hide for it to be an issue. They can now blackmail you for things they know about you, track you, use targeted advertising, listen in on your conversations. Hell, if there was a need to make you look guilty of a crime, with all the data on you, it wouldn't be that difficult to do.

Doesn't even get into the issues of fighting back against oppressive government, which isnmuch more difficult to do if they're constantly spying on you.

But, you're right, nothing to hide, so it's not a big deal I guess.

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Then they act all butthurt when they get debt collectors harassing them on social media, or repos using location data to repo a car with missed payments, lol. All the J6 people are a great example of people fucking around with tech and committing crimes, then finding out belatedly :)

There's lots of good, non-crime reasons why you might wanna protect your personal data, so you don't get your identity stolen, your wife thrown in jail for an accidental pregnancy, or being any flavor of queer in a regressive state.

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In the case of cars there isn't really an alternative. The study the article cites looked at a bunch of different manufacturers and found the all sucked for privacy.

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Same. I've been slowly adding more and more smart devices to my Home Assistant instance and seeing it all interact is super neat. That said, the search for products that work 100% local and don't depend on the cloud is a total pain, outside of some products using the Zigbee standard and such.

Zigbee and z-wave is the way to go, yeah. They work completely local and disconnected from the internet (in fact, they cannot directly connect to the internet).

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