Apple iPhone 15 relegated to USB 2.0 unless you buy the Pro

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Apple finally put USB-C in the new iPhone, but it's inexplicably limited to 23-year-old USB 2.0 speeds
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The only people who need the USB 3 transfer speeds are going to be Pro users. For everyone else, it doesn't matter.

What? Do you realize how insanely slow USB 2 is? Good luck transferring even a tiny ass video. I don't think you need to be a pro user to want to transfer some media from your phone and not take all day..

Most people using Apple devices don’t transfer media via cord anymore. The average user only uses the cloud for those things.

I’ve had an iPhone for the last 10 years and can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve needed to use a cable instead of iCloud/Dropbox/other file share service.

Transfering video via cord is actually apples suggested way of sending full res videos to android phones because Apple is too lazy and monopolous to adopt RCS.

RCS is also a google monopoly. Can’t call out Apple for being a monopoly without also applying the same standard to google. RCS is technically open, but in order to work they require googles servers.

I just send video over Dropbox if I want to share full res. But that is the first legitimate use I’ve seen.

What's to stop apple from using their own servers in accordance with the published specs from the GSMA, the industry nonprofit that started and steers the project by committee? Im not putting it past google to be a monopoly either, but I can't find any info that suggests apple is being shut out of doing it themselves. ATT has their own implementation away from googles RCS servers, or at least used to.

RCS is older than iMessage yet was still a total mess of compatibility just two years ago. E2EE isn’t part of the spec, but something Google tacked on to their implementation. Google has an abysmal track record for supporting chat services. So why should apple adapt to them again? Meanwhile Apple created a seamless experience for iPhone users and has been supporting it for a decade now.

They can, but why would they? RCS is essentially googles standard, it’s just more open than Apples equivalent.

For the most part Apple and Apple users just don’t care. iMessage works for most everyone, and for texting non-Apple users a 3rd party app is used.

It’s not impossible that it happens, but it’s only going to happen once their hand is forced.

So then the answer isn't "its a google monopoly" its 'google choose to work with the nonprofit and we didn't'. Im sure the 1200 company strong industry nonprofit would have loved to have apple at the table for a collaborative development on an open standard. They've done it before with usb c, they chose not to. If anything google would be asserting monopoly over other people who choose to provide RCS services, not anyone that chooses not to. I get it though, if I was Apple I'd be terrified of having to compete with googles net infrastructure, they would lose unless they got amazon on their team.

Apple has been pushing users away from transferring data over cable for years anyway. Most users will sync files over wifi.

Annoying, as that should be the users choice, but I doubt the average iPhone user will even notice. Iirc the lightning connector was also limited to USB 2.0 speeds and only some particular power users ever complained about that.

It's not that slow, how'd you think I transferred stuff off a CompactFlash card with raw files off my DSLR before USB 3.0? I'd regularly dump several GBs worth of files out after a shoot. It'd take a few minutes but it's not the end of the world.

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