Mastodon gets better search, onboarding, and cross-server interactions

spiritedpause@sh.itjust.works to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 611 points –
Mastodon 4.2 works more like it ought to
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What's so special about bluesky that people are migrating there?

Old CEO of Twitter is involved.

Usually when something turns to shit, and the original CEO leaves to create a similar product, people follow. With games, software, even hardware.

BS is run by an independent team, and Jack recently deleted his BS account. He's promoting Nostr.

The invite only is helping build the science Community create their circles without misinformation being pushed or shouted at them.

Currently BS also has one server, so it's easier for most people to use it unlike mastodon instances. The custom feeds also help with community building.

Can't help but read the "BS"s as bullshit. The meaning didn't change much.

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Oh yes, this reason makes sense.

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The big thing is that it is invite only. Also, I find it easier to use than mastodon.

Another point, I need more shitpost in my feed. I fucked up with my mastodon feed and have too much political crap on there. I ended up saving a good amount of invites and invite only to small group people I like and want to keep touch with (no rando). So, I ended up with a small cohort of people over there that I can share thoughts and photos with.

Is there much in mastodon at all other than political stuff? When I first joined I went to the “posts” tab and it was all political stuff. I don’t know what populates in that tab, I’m assuming it’s popular posts, but it’s almost all I’ve seen on there.

A good way to find stuff is to follow hashtags you are interested in. You start seeing people who post stuff you like and follow them as well. Want art? Follow #mastoart. Want stuff about programming? Follow #programming. Then you start seeing artists and programmers and you can follow them to see their other posts. They boost something and oh that is interesting to so you follow that person too. You kinda gotta get the ball rolling by just following stuff.

There is not really an algorithm on masto which is simultaneously its greatest weakness and strength, just people boosting stuff, just people tagging stuff. It takes a little more work to find stuff but the benefit is no one can game the algorithm. Things spread organically.

Well there's everything. I'm on Mastodon.art so my local feed is populated by art. I sub to a few game developers, writers and scientists as well

I guess different people have different use cases. I am enjoying Mastodon and have had positive interactions with people. I have also found a lot of good quality content there. Additionally, I totally avoid political stuff so haven't had any issues of political stuff messing up my feed. IMO the invite only thing is just increasing attractiveness by creating artificial scarcity.

@Bobo @Captain_Calico

I think some people are also scared off by the spread-out, volunteer nature of things.

We're betting at least some people (and we only need a small number; we're not greedy) will feel more comfortable with a paid service with an actual company (not launched yet). Won't ever be a large portion of Fediverse users, but I think a broad diversity of options will be what will ensure the Fediverse "wins" in the long run.

Really, variety of options and potential interlinkage with other kinds of Fediverse projects is what really excites me about the Fediverse.

I think the invites feature is the only things bluesky really has. At this point, I don't mind as much as the feature allowed me to control who is in my feed and made my feed more intimate like the early days of Facebook. For me, it was a way to weirdly combat parasocial relationships by inviting people I know and talk to.

Theoretically. I can do the same for mastodon. But once I start trying to explain fediverse, they didn't care for it. Fediverse idea is interesting, but loses most people I want to keep in touch with.

One of the things I really like about Mastodon is that I can curate my feed to show only what I am interested in by following hashtags and/or people and muting those people whose posts I don't want to see. There's no hidden algorithm controlling my feed, pushing controversial posts towards me and other stuff. So I don't get why would you need the invite only feature of bluesky control your feed?

Because it is harder to get people I know on board to mastodon than to bluesky. I don't want too many random people on my feed. Most of my feed consists of people I do know and actually interact with. Mastodon doesn't have as much shitposting as I would like and takes awhile for it to get situated to the point I ended not using it. Why bother going to mastodon when I have my friends on bluesky.

OK understood why you prefer bluesky.

What I hear a lot is

  • they are following other people there
  • they don’t know how to use Mastodon and prefer Bluesky
  • people on Mastodon keep telling them that they aren’t using it correctly
  • reply guys on Mastodon who think they know everything better than the scientists
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