What popular quote are you tired of hearing?

mommykink@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 142 points –

Bonus points if it's usually misused/misunderstood by the people who say it

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"Agree to disagree." No, dipshit, you're just wrong.

I do not agree to disagree, because we're not arguing about opinions. Your belief is simply, objectively incorrect. Or mine is, which is something that I would be willing to accept. If I were wrong, you'd be able to convince me that I'm wrong. We can keep going until one of us accepts that we didn't have an accurate understanding of reality.

It's always the dipshits that fall back on "Well, we will have to agree to disagree," usually right after they've been presented with enough evidence to change the mind of a rational person. Fuck that, I do not agree to disagree.

Agree to disagree is for things like "what ice cream flavor is best", not for things like "2+2=4".

I have found that the issue is often that people tend to not realize they're arguing that 2+2=6, they think they're arguing what ice cream flavor is the best

This is exactly the sort of argument that I was thinking of when I wrote the comment. We can agree to disagree on the best ice cream flavor, because everyone has different tastes. We cannot agree to disagree on whether the earth is flat, because it's not and we have overwhelming proof that it isn't.

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If I were wrong, you'd be able to convince me that I'm wrong. We can keep going until one of us accepts that we didn't have an accurate understanding of reality.

I had an ex like you.

You don't get tired of arguments? I see it as a 'fine, be stupid if you want' because I'm not spending more time on the point.

You can walk away from an argument without agreeing to disagree.

Agreeing to disagree is just more polite and often nicer for both, if such agreement is reached. You're basically saying that we can't really convince each other of our position so let's just leave it at that instead of trying endlessly.

I just don’t like the phrasing because “agreeing to disagree” makes it seem like you are accepting that it’s good that they don’t agree with you. Saying literally anything else to convey what just said would make more sense.

I don't get that feeling at all, to me it sounds like you've just come to the conclusion that you shouldn't go on with arguing.

Well I do, so that’s why I don’t use that phrase and don’t like it when people use that phrase with me.

I use it as a politer version of "Could you stop talking now? Thanks."

Why do people keep acting like there’s nothing between 0 and 100? You could also say “I don’t think we’re going to convince each other in this conversation,” which is already politer, without having to ask someone to agree to something else that they don’t want to agree to.

No, dipshit, you're just wrong.

Your belief is simply, objectively incorrect.

If I were wrong, you'd be able to convince me that I'm wrong. We can keep going until one of us accepts that we didn't have an accurate understanding of reality.

Boy if this doesn't describe most people arguing online lol.

which is something that I would be willing to accept.

I've found this is much harder than it seems. People either don't understand they're wrong (which might be the reason they're wrong to begin with) or unwilling to admit to being wrong even to themselves. So you'll have the first part of my quote lol

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