What alternate Youtube frontends are there? And which ones do you recommend?

moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 186 points –

I've heard of piped due to the piped-link bot, but I am curious about others.

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Louis Rossman just released Grayjay! His video about it is here

Friendly reminder that Grayjay is only source-available.

FUTO Temporary License (FTL) violates the following open-source principles:

  • Open source licenses must allow free redistribution. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow source code distribution. FTL allows restrictions to access the code at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow modifications. FTL allows modifications only for non-commercial use, or maybe not even that. FTL dodges the word modifications here, no clue.
  • Open source licenses must explicitly allow distribution of software built from modified source code. FTL forbids distribution of software built from modified source code for commercial use.
  • Open source licenses must not discriminate against persons/groups and fields of endeavor. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

The FTL enables the following practices:

  • Copyright holders can change the license terms.
  • Copyright holders can re-license everything.
  • Copyright holders can target specific groups and individuals with discriminatory license terms.
  • Copyright holders can close source everything.
  • Copyright holders can forbid specific groups and individuals from using their work.

My main gripe here is that the video sells a source-available software with severe usage restrictions as open-source. These restrictions may sound reasonable to people outside of the open-source world, especially to people who use similar wording in their own terms of service, but nobody would touch your software with a ten foot pole with a software license like that.

It doesn't? Louis spends quite a bit of time going over why they aren't fully open source and how they've arrived at that result.

I'm not quite sure what you mean? Louis calls it open-source during the entire "This is open source, but it is NOT free!" segment. But what he describes as open-source is not open-source, but source-available.

The reasoning that he doesn't want it to be used like newpipe is really optimistic on his part. People break license all the time on much larger applications.

Only on android :/ i thought it was going to be a progressive web app

I almost switched to iPhone, thankfully this came out to show me why that is a bad idea. I just need to de-gpogle.

Wait, why would this one app currently only being available on Android make switching a bad idea? Seems like a weird thing to base a decision that big on…

It's more about the ability for such apps to exist. Other apps include Tachiyomi (manga reader) and similar apps that are not allowed because of the app stores terms of service.

Hopefully Apple will soon be forced to allow such apps to exist outside of their store. Freedom to install what I want is a main reason I switched back from an iPhone to a Pixel with GrapheneOS.

I dunno, I call bullshit on that because Yattee is on the app store: https://github.com/yattee/yattee

Thanks for the link. I'm surprised it survived Apple's review process as I thought such apps weren't allowed. Now I have a private YouTube altednative to recommend.

Tachiyomi relies on installing sources as additional apks because otherwise they'd have to update the app daily. This is not allowed on Play/App Store.

YouTube ReVanced and other patched apps are also great and not obviously not possible on iOS bexlcause of restrictions.

This one app to use a google service stopped you from moving away from a google operating system? Lol

you can degoogle android. good luck removing apple from your iPhone tho

If you plan to get a new phone, get a Google Pixel and install GrapheneOS on it. By default, it doesn't have any Google spyware services. It also has substantial security improvements compared to normal Android. It's probably the most private and secure mobile operating system that currently exists.

Yow! that looks pretty awesome. I installed it and added the Nebula plugin... wonder if there's a CuriosityStream one as well?

Can you tell what payment options they offer? I can't find info on the website, and my options are rather limited. Thank you!

For Nebula/CuriosityStream? I only remember I bought a combo membership near Christmas the last two years -- they usually offer a year-long subscription for like $11 USD around the holidays. Look out for those, I really like CuriosityStream and find it's worth it.

I meant for the app, but it might be a good idea to pick up Nebula as well, I was thinking about that for a long time. Thanks!

It’s free my dude? Its open-source, the code is on gitlab.

Edit: My apologies, I was incorrect.

https://communick.news/post/245851

You can use the app for as long as you like until you decide if you want to pay. Looks to me like it's credit card or cashapp at the moment with crypto and carrier based options coming .

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

here

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.