Biden, in Valley Forge speech, hits Trump hard as threat to democracy

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The full speech livestream is here

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That's not what being discussed here

Uh? How so?

The DNC has sued to keep Green party off state ballots, they argued in court they are a private corporation that can use primaries to install their preferred candidate, and theyve sued to keep RCV off ballots for future elections, and sued to keep RCV off ballots where its already passed for use.

Trump, who you are referring to, even though he is a piece of shit, has only keep accused of insurrection, not charged with it. Whether you like it or not, until he's charged, he should be free to stay on the ballots. Which is what I expect SCOTUS to rule.

The DNCs corrupt shittiness aside.

Trump, who you are referring to, even though he is a piece of shit, has only keep accused of insurrection, not charged with it. Whether you like it or not, until he’s charged, blah blah blah.

Have you been completely living under a rock the last 6 months? He's been charged.

https://politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/07/politics/trump-indictments-criminal-cases/

https://www.nytimes.com/article/trump-cases-counts-charges-strengths.html

Point out where he's been charged with insurrection

Go waste someone else's time.

edit: no need to call you an idiot, that's mean.

I’ll be mean! That guy’s an idiot.

Because no one can point out where he's been charged with insurrection? If you only support rule of law when it's your side, you don't support rule of law.

This is Lemmy. It is pretty caustic and will be the downfall of it.

I on no way like Trump but you are entirely correct. He is still legally entitled to be on the ballet. Same as being impeached. He was acquitted by the rules of the constitution whether we like it or not. Doesn't mean he is innocent because he was not convicted.

That's the thing, I know he's crooked as fuck and always has been. I've thought that of him for decades. But my opinion doesn't matter if he's not convicted of these things. And Any critique of Biden is taken as support for that POS.

You're on point despite being downvoted. There are other people who believe that principles should be applied consistently out there. Don't lose heart!

This thread was about insurrection, not his other crimes. you listed valid links for his crimes, none of which addresses the topic in this thread.

The 14th amendment says nothing about being charged or found guilty of insurrection.