More than 100,000 protest across Germany over far-right AfD’s mass deportation meetings

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More than 100,000 protest across Germany over far-right AfD’s mass deportation meetings
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More than 100,000 people turned out across Germany on Saturday in protest against the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party, which sparked an outcry after it emerged that the party’s members discussed mass deportation plans at a meeting of extremists.

In Frankfurt, about 35,000 people joined a call under the banner “Defend democracy – Frankfurt against the AfD”, marching in the financial heart of Germany. A similar number, some carrying posters like “Nazis out”, turned up in the northern city of Hanover.

Protests were also held in cities including Braunschweig, Erfurt and Kassel and many smaller towns, mirroring mobilisation every day over the past week. In all, demonstrations have been called in about 100 locations across Germany from Friday through the weekend, including in Berlin on Sunday.

Politicians, churches and Bundesliga coaches have all urged people to stand up against the AfD.

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Funny how it's always undemocratic if it's the right side of the spectrum. If people illegaly entered your country. You should be able to deport them, no?

Bruh, they talk about even to deport Germans who oppose their politics. And as German we know that mass deportation is a dog whistle for killing .

I think suggesting they're proposing killing is a wild overstatement, but the prospect of mass deportations of German citizens – people born in Germany – is really disturbing.

They talked about the 'deportation' 8km or 5miles away from Wannsee, where the OG Nazis planned the 'deportation' of Jews, communists, alcoholics and other minorities to Madagascar. And this was a dog whistle for Endlösung. So even if that's the most horrifying outcome, it's not a 'wild overstatement.

I wasn't aware of that link.

Very grim...

And I'm not saying that they could make their ideas reality, because the world is different. I talk about what they would LIKE to do and that their choices are symbolic.

These people entered legally as refugees.

No they didn't. Also 431200 ordered to leave the EU in 2022 alone! The only way to do something about this is mass deportation.

the only way to do something

See that's the fundamental difference here. People who aren't racist pieces of shit don't see this as a situation where something must be done. Because multiculturalism is a good thing.

That's is a blind ideological position, with a very poor evidence base, that frankly is wearing pretty thin across the entire continent.

Sweden is currently dealing with its capital city turned into the gun-murder capital of Europe by drug-trafficking gangs who are migrants and 'refugees'. France and Germany have both suffered numerous appalling mass terrorist atrocities in recent years. You had an Algerian-born man go into a school in Ireland and stab a bunch of children just last year.

Antisemitism is skyrocketing with appalling hate crimes against Jews, and it's largely coming from Muslim communities who've done nothing to address the frightening levels of antisemitism within their communities.

These are issues that need to be addressed. The levels of extremism among immigrant communities are a threat to many European countries, and there has to be a way to fix the problems that exist in that respect. If you're just going to ignore these problems, other people are going to point them out and begin to address them, and you're going to lose the argument in the real world, not just online.

Of all the good arguments you could use, this is probably the weakest one.

The only way to do something

Never believe anyone in politics who says there's only one way to do something. They're trying to trick you from not seeing the very many other ways.

As an engineer, rest assured, there is almost always another way to do something. I get paid to find them.

Why take part in a conversation if you are not properly informed on the topic?

There are three target groups of migrants, he explains, who should be extradited from the country – or, as he puts it, “foreigners” who should undergo “reversed settlement”. They are: asylum seekers, non-Germans with residency rights, and “non-assimilated” German citizens. It is the latter that, in his view, would pose the biggest “challenge”.

Silke Schröder, a property developer and board member of the right-leaning Verein Deutsche Sprache (German Language Association), wonders how re-migration would work in practice. Surely if a person has the “appropriate” passport it would be ” impossible”, wouldn’t it? For Sellner, this is just a detail. A “high level of pressure” will be exerted on people to adapt, he says, via “customised laws”. Re-migration won’t happen overnight; it is “a project that will take decades”.

The masterplan even includes a destination to “move people to”, a so-called “model state” in North Africa, that would apparently provide space for up to two million people. There would even be educational and sport offers there. And anyone who lobbies on behalf of refugees could join them there, Sellner added.

According to Sellner, the problem is “not just that foreigners live here. They also vote here.” “Ethnic voting” means that immigrants are likely to vote for “immigration-friendly” parties.

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