Hamas proposes 135-day Gaza truce with complete Israeli withdrawal
Hamas has proposed a ceasefire plan that would quiet the guns in Gaza for four-and-a-half months, during which all hostages would go free, Israel would withdraw its troops from the Gaza Strip and an agreement would be reached on an end to the war.
There was no immediate public response from Israel, which has said it will not pull its troops out of Gaza until Hamas is wiped out.
The Hamas counterproposal envisages three phases of a truce, lasting 45 days each. Militants would exchange remaining Israeli hostages captured on Oct. 7 for Palestinian prisoners. The reconstruction of Gaza would begin, Israeli forces would withdraw completely, and bodies and remains would be exchanged.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived overnight in Israel after meeting the leaders of mediators Qatar and Egypt.
A source close to the negotiations said the Hamas counterproposal did not require a guarantee of a permanent ceasefire at the outset, but an end to the war would have to be agreed during the truce before the final hostages were freed.
I'm sure the Palestinians don't want to live next to people that want to do, and have done, the same and much more to them.
It will be rejected because Israel justifiably does not want Hamas to exist.
Israel will also use this to unjustifiably reject it to proceed with a genocide on civilians not affiliated with Hamas.
It will be rejected because Israel
justifiablydoes not wantHamasPalestine to exist.Israel had been killing people, occupying territory, and illegally expanding settlements since long before fore Hamas was a thing. If they didn't want Hamas to exist next to them, they shouldn't have been doing all that stuff before.
Israel doesn't want Hamas to exist? If that's so, why did they themselves fund Hamas? Why did they purposefully allow billions of dollars propping up the Hamas government?
@RapidCreek set you up for that gotcha and you bit.
It's amazing how fast some turn to whatabout on this issue. It is never OK to commit an act of terrorism. Raping, murdering, taking hostages is never a workable solution to any problem. Bin Laden. justified 9/11 in the same way.
It's not whataboutism to point out the fact that barbaric acts have been going both ways for a long fucking time.
Who is even arguing this?
No one. This is what propagandists do. They change the conversation until you get frustrated and quit.
And with 9/11 a lot of people have talked of blowback. Are you saying the same can be said about Israel?
No, I'm saying that terrisum on civilians can not be justified in a civilized world.
Hamas is evil, yes, but ultimately Israel isn't attacking Hamas. It's attacking Palestinians indiscriminately and hoping afterward that some of them might've been associated with Hamas. People aren't calling for a ceasefire because they like Hamas, they're calling for it because Hamas has nothing to do with Israel's attack on Palestine besides being a convenient scapegoat.
Isreal is attacking because of 10/7.
Israel is attacking now because 10/7 gives them the excuse. Again, they're not attacking the people responsible for 10/7, they're attacking everyone in that area, and hoping maybe they got one.
Ever since the dawn of man one village would attack another then those who were attacked would counter attack. An excuse is not needed.
You're dancing around the basis of my argument. They're not counterattacking Hamas, they're killing Palestinians. It's like if you punched me in the face so I killed your innocent grandma and called it justice.
What do you think the conditions were like in Gaza and the West Bank even on Oct 6th from the occupation?
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Shaw Commission
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
Irgun and Lehi activity
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
Gaza Blockade is Occupation
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Apartheid
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Settler Violence
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations
No freedom of movement
Water control
Gaza March for Return Protest
Palestinians lack civil rights
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
AWRAD Gaza War Poll
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
History of peace process
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
10 Myths of Israel
Please save your stuff for someone else.
Israel has been attacking long before 10/7. This is a conflict that's been going on for longer than pretty much everyone here has been alive