It's so weird to read these articles. I live in a shithole country, but even here fibre internet with 2.5gbps speeds is easily available... 5G ain't bad but against it never feels replacing that kind of connection for me.
It actually seems common for less developed countries to have better internet than the more developed ones. Germans always complain about their internet, for example. I believe the reason is simply that your country laid down lines relatively recently, so they're compatible with high speed internet, while Germany laid down their lines 30 years ago, so they're fairly shitty in comparison. It tends to be a lot harder to convince governments or bosses to replace something that seems to work fine, and it can be costlier too.
Yea its similar to why the electrical lines and plugs suck in the US, they were just here at GEN 1,while others had to wait so they got better versions.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the lines, but the headends. Coax is very capable of transmitting lots of Data fast. Due to the tree topology of cable however, the headends have to be extremely fast. If everyone on the tree of 100 has 1000 Mbit, that headend needs to have 100 Gbit of capacity. Most of those headends however cap out at 10 Gbit and sometimes service up to 300-500 ports. German cable providers cheaped out and didn't upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while. The coax line technology didn't change in the last 30 years.
German cable providers cheaped out and didn't upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while.
This is always the real reason.
Rich people being cheap.
Well, I live in Germany and I know quite a few people who have internet so bad IPoAC would be a valid option.
You can get fibre but A it’s fucking expensive and B you need to live somewhere where there actually is fibre. Most people either have DSL or cable. DSL is "slow" (depending where you live up to 250mbps. Most places only get up to 100mbps) and expensive (although not as expensive as fibre). And cable is fast (up to Gigabit) and a bit cheaper but the biggest pile of garbage I‘ve ever seen.
Yeah, travelling to Germany a few times, even data always sucks, both wifi and mobile. We joked that Germany has the beet economy in EU because the net is so bad people don't waste so much time on Facebook...
Mobile data highly depends on the carrier. We have three distinct mobile networks: D1 (Telekom), D2 (Vodafone) and E (Telefónica aka O2) and Telekom is the best by far and O2 is a joke although comparably cheap.
We used to have four but about ten years ago (whoa, time flies) Telefónica bought the fourth carrier, e-Plus and the E1 and E2 networks merged. Probably was a smart business move because they’ve become less of a joke since.
As a customer of both Telekom and O2, i highly disagree...the Telekom net most of the times is shittier than the O2 one - even though the O2 one sometimes looses connection all together, in those cases the Telekom connection doesn't have Internet at all either.
Maybe it’s a regional thing but my experience is Telekom 5G always and O2 5G maybe if you‘re in a big city (or just randomly in that one 200 inhabitants village), 4G usually most places and EDGE even where none else has service.
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I live in the US in a pretty large city and I would never even think to replace my fiber with 5G. I've never seen 5G get above 25 Mbps, when I was getting those speeds with COAX 10 years ago.
I pay for 1Gbps fiber now and will never go lower.
I wish I had fiber. I get 100 Mb from T-Mobile 5g and 80 from spectrum. I've had two significant gaps in coverage from T-Mobile, but I also had internet during a power outage with a generator and an extension cord, which was huge.
For 50$, I'll take that over a more consistent 80mb for 100-120$.
Definitely a rural thing, less 5g congestion and all. a physical line makes way more sense in a city, ideally fiber, but 5g internet has a pretty big niche.
I get 500 Mbps on 5G home Internet on a bad night. I would still take fiber over 5G any day, but it can be much better than you've seen.
Damn, really? That's actually shocking and impressive.
here we are getting some limited "5G" (bandwidth is fucked it's basically early 4G speeds but with a 5G written at the top) here and there, but most cable connections are still on ADSL2. if you want fibre you have to pay for replacing the cables and congratulations now your bandwidth maybe increased from 8 Mbps to 16 Mbps but now your data cap costs are twice more expensive and you basically limited your choice to 1 or 2 ISPs.
the irony is now that almost everyone are on the mobile network the speeds are basically the same as landline connections but data caps are much more expensive. internet here is just fucked.
Iranian?
lmao yeah. long live Mokhaberat
When you said ADSL and 16Mbps I thought to myself no other country in the world could possibly share this experience
That makes two of us lol
Also where the fuck do you have 5G? I would consider myself lucky at 4.5G (but it works alright)
mostly around my university but i have also seen the 5G symbol pop up at random places. it's never consistent though outside uni. the speeds are almost the same as 4.5G so it really doesn't matter.
It's so weird to read these articles. I live in a shithole country, but even here fibre internet with 2.5gbps speeds is easily available... 5G ain't bad but against it never feels replacing that kind of connection for me.
It actually seems common for less developed countries to have better internet than the more developed ones. Germans always complain about their internet, for example. I believe the reason is simply that your country laid down lines relatively recently, so they're compatible with high speed internet, while Germany laid down their lines 30 years ago, so they're fairly shitty in comparison. It tends to be a lot harder to convince governments or bosses to replace something that seems to work fine, and it can be costlier too.
Yea its similar to why the electrical lines and plugs suck in the US, they were just here at GEN 1,while others had to wait so they got better versions.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the lines, but the headends. Coax is very capable of transmitting lots of Data fast. Due to the tree topology of cable however, the headends have to be extremely fast. If everyone on the tree of 100 has 1000 Mbit, that headend needs to have 100 Gbit of capacity. Most of those headends however cap out at 10 Gbit and sometimes service up to 300-500 ports. German cable providers cheaped out and didn't upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while. The coax line technology didn't change in the last 30 years.
This is always the real reason.
Rich people being cheap.
Well, I live in Germany and I know quite a few people who have internet so bad IPoAC would be a valid option. You can get fibre but A it’s fucking expensive and B you need to live somewhere where there actually is fibre. Most people either have DSL or cable. DSL is "slow" (depending where you live up to 250mbps. Most places only get up to 100mbps) and expensive (although not as expensive as fibre). And cable is fast (up to Gigabit) and a bit cheaper but the biggest pile of garbage I‘ve ever seen.
Yeah, travelling to Germany a few times, even data always sucks, both wifi and mobile. We joked that Germany has the beet economy in EU because the net is so bad people don't waste so much time on Facebook...
Mobile data highly depends on the carrier. We have three distinct mobile networks: D1 (Telekom), D2 (Vodafone) and E (Telefónica aka O2) and Telekom is the best by far and O2 is a joke although comparably cheap.
We used to have four but about ten years ago (whoa, time flies) Telefónica bought the fourth carrier, e-Plus and the E1 and E2 networks merged. Probably was a smart business move because they’ve become less of a joke since.
As a customer of both Telekom and O2, i highly disagree...the Telekom net most of the times is shittier than the O2 one - even though the O2 one sometimes looses connection all together, in those cases the Telekom connection doesn't have Internet at all either.
Maybe it’s a regional thing but my experience is Telekom 5G always and O2 5G maybe if you‘re in a big city (or just randomly in that one 200 inhabitants village), 4G usually most places and EDGE even where none else has service.
I see Avian carrier I upvote
I live in the US in a pretty large city and I would never even think to replace my fiber with 5G. I've never seen 5G get above 25 Mbps, when I was getting those speeds with COAX 10 years ago.
I pay for 1Gbps fiber now and will never go lower.
I wish I had fiber. I get 100 Mb from T-Mobile 5g and 80 from spectrum. I've had two significant gaps in coverage from T-Mobile, but I also had internet during a power outage with a generator and an extension cord, which was huge.
For 50$, I'll take that over a more consistent 80mb for 100-120$.
Definitely a rural thing, less 5g congestion and all. a physical line makes way more sense in a city, ideally fiber, but 5g internet has a pretty big niche.
I get 500 Mbps on 5G home Internet on a bad night. I would still take fiber over 5G any day, but it can be much better than you've seen.
Damn, really? That's actually shocking and impressive.
here we are getting some limited "5G" (bandwidth is fucked it's basically early 4G speeds but with a 5G written at the top) here and there, but most cable connections are still on ADSL2. if you want fibre you have to pay for replacing the cables and congratulations now your bandwidth maybe increased from 8 Mbps to 16 Mbps but now your data cap costs are twice more expensive and you basically limited your choice to 1 or 2 ISPs.
the irony is now that almost everyone are on the mobile network the speeds are basically the same as landline connections but data caps are much more expensive. internet here is just fucked.
Iranian?
lmao yeah. long live Mokhaberat
When you said ADSL and 16Mbps I thought to myself no other country in the world could possibly share this experience
That makes two of us lol
Also where the fuck do you have 5G? I would consider myself lucky at 4.5G (but it works alright)
mostly around my university but i have also seen the 5G symbol pop up at random places. it's never consistent though outside uni. the speeds are almost the same as 4.5G so it really doesn't matter.