Zelensky: JD Vance must understand ‘millions will be killed’ without US aid to Ukraine
thehill.com
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday that “millions will be killed” in his country’s war with Russia without additional funding from the United States.
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Zelensky in an interview to respond to comments made by Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), who claimed Ukraine’s outcome in its war will not be changed even if it receives the President Biden’s $60 billion aid request. Zelensky said he wasn’t sure if Vance “understands what is going on here.”
“To understand it is to come to the front line to see what’s going on, to speak with the people, then to go to civilians to understand … what will [happen to] them without this support. And he will understand that millions … will be killed. It’s a fact,” Zelensky said.
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Damn, that sucks. Not sure why it's our problem though. Millions of Russians will be killed if we do give them aid. Ukraine should learn to solve their own problems.
Ukraine is the world's "bread basket" they produce a ton of the world supply of wheat and barley.
Brutal take.
Enjoy your vodka.
Aid wouldn't be needed if the ruzzians withdraw from Ukraine.
Read up:
https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine/
Why would millions of Russians be killed if Russia left Ukraine and went back home? Its Putin, not Ukraine. Slava Ukrainia!
The weapons we give Ukraine are going to be used to kill millions of Russians
Only if millions of Russians invade Ukraine, which so far, is not happening.
There is an easy way for Russia to prevent those deaths (even though your numbers are hyperbolic): Pulling out of Ukraine, to the 2014 borders. Easy peasy, no more dead russians.
How did you come to the calculation of millions of Russians?
Why would it be millions of one side but not the other?
Because the millions for Ukraine accounts for civilian casualties, not purely military. For anything similar Ukraine would have to counter invade Russia and launch artillery at residential areas.
Even if we assume the worst of Ukraine's intent, they wouldn't have the capability to go beyond securing their borders.
Do you think civilians would die if Ukraine surrendered? Based on what evidence?
You're moving goalposts here. You said millions of Russians would die if Ukraine was given aid and I asked how you determined that number. By the same token, Russia should simply surrender.
Oh it is our problem, if Russia takes and keeps Ukrain that tells the whole world expansionism is back on the table. If you think war cant find its way to your doorstep, your wrong
Damn, good thing America has all 10 of the worlds largest militaries then. Very much not concerned with that.
War on your doorstep as an american doesnt look like enemy soldiers in the street. More like you wake up one day with no power, no tap water, no phone service, no internet, no way to get news or ask for help. Eventually a cop car rolls down the street loudspeaker blaring shelter in place orders, national guard will bring food and water later yadda yadda and all because we are extremely complacent towards security of utilities in the cyber space
Sounds fun right?
That just sounds like typical late stage capitalism, lol. But I have nothing against defense spending. America has very little defense spending though. The thing we call "defense" is very obviously 90% offense. America should spend our money helping our own people, not screwing around in wars half way around the world.
Maybe Russia shouldn't invade other countries if they don't want their people to die
Still not seeing why America is supposed to give a crap about a war on the other side of the globe. We are still responsible for the deaths of millions if we give Ukraine all the weapons they desire.
They are solving their own problems by fighting back. Unfortunately that requires missiles that fucking cost money.
So they aren't solving them then? Why do we have to pay for their missiles? We can't afford to fight their war for them.
You think Russia is gonna stop at invading Ukraine if someone doesn't put a dent in them?
Yes. Why would anyone think otherwise based on logic?
...you do know they used to have an extensive empire and want it back
What do you think happens once Russia conquers Ukraine?
What happens is the other 90% of Ukraine will be fine, and Crimea will be Russian.
Watch this clown decry genocide one comment prior. Spineless agitprop.
Genocide is awful. If Russia were doing that in Ukraine, I'd be all for a war over it. This is a war over a couple ports Russia wants. Completely irrelevant to america, and not our problem.
Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, assuming we are using the rather expansive definition that people are now using for the Israel-Hamas conflict.
The US should definitely support Ukraine, but Europe could do a hell of a lot more to ramp up war production. All the talk is about US aid, but the Europeans are being massive pussies. They brag about sending more food and medical aid, but Russia won't be intimidated by that. Europe needs to convert to a war economy, massively ramp up war production, and supply Ukraine with unlimited military equipment. This is a war whose outcome will be determined by industrial production, which means Russia will certainly win if Europe doesn't get its collective ass in gear. The US should take the opportunity to ramp up military production as well, but the Europeans are a lot closer to the action and have much more at stake. The Europeans should agree to take the lead on Ukraine while the US gears up for competition with China.
No, they are not. Israel is though. These things have definitions for a reason. If Europe and Russia want to have a war, they can go right ahead. America needs to stay out of it though. Fuck their wars. I would happily dodge a draft, as would most people I know. America needs to learn to make money by building things, instead of by blowing them up. No war with Russia, no war with China, ever. If Congress wants a war, it better be drafting every single child of a congressman first. Otherwise Americans are not going to show up.
I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is somehow less genocidal than what Israel is doing. At least Israel has the excuse that they were attacked by Hamas, and that Hamas's ultimate goal is the extermination of Israel. Ukraine did nothing to Russia and has no thought of eliminating Russia as a country. Ukraine's only "crime" was being friendly with the West, which also has no intention of eliminating Russia, except in Putin's paranoid fantasies.
Do you think Hamas started the violence? Because, no that's not remotely close to true.
Nope. And the "who started it" conversation doesn't go anywhere useful.
It's important as context for understanding why one is a genocide and the other isn't
Russia abducted and deported thousands of children. That alone meets the criteria agreed upon in the UN for genocide.
The lowkey pro-Russian takes you have are as transparent as they are full of logical inconsistencies.