“We came to visit Russia as tourists for the New Year on December 27 and met an agent who helped us visit different places. He offered to take us to Belarus, but we were not aware we would need a visa for the country. We went to Belarus where we gave money to him, but he demanded more money. He abandoned us on a highway as we didn’t have the money to pay him,” one of the men can be heard saying in Hindi in the video.
“We were then caught by the police who handed us over to the Russian army.
We came to visit Russia as tourists
Boy, my sympathy went to 0 pretty damn fast. Might as well have said they went to Nazi Germany as tourists.
edit: grammar
There was a whole Olympics hosted by Nazi Germany.
So Russia's worse than Hitlers's Germany?
Putin's Russia also hosted Olympics
I don't know if media coverage and public awareness about the atrocities are high enough in India to make that judgement.
Russia sell oil cheap to India, so they are good?
The argument is basically "they've never done anything to us, so we're good". But yeah the cheap stuff must help.
as well have*
Sorry, the power of pedantry compels me. Hope this is of help at least.
Thank you. I knew it looked/sounded wrong.
You are a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.
Or maybe it's just a bad idea to play tourist in countries that are engaged in active war
Weird how you just moved the goalposts from "Russia is a bad nation" to "it's only bad because it's in active war."
You will never acknowledge how you're a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.
I'm not OP lol
To me this story is about idiots visiting a nation at war and ending up a part of it. Big surprise
Then why are you replying to me?
Make your own comments.
Lemmy is a discussion site my dude, replying to comments is what it's for. If you don't want replies, send a PM
Yes, but you're replying to comments that have nothing to do with what you're saying.
Just start your own chain instead of trying to hijack others.
you're replying to comments that have nothing to do with what you're saying
Makes irrelevant comments like "You are a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism."
Ok I'll stop feeding the trolls now, have yourself a nice day
Not really.
You just don't like what's being said so you pretend not to understand it.
I see it all the time and don't expect more from people like you.
Got any links to news stories about tourists in Ukraine getting forced into fighting for them.
Take your time. I'll wait.
Or how about Ukraine intentionally targeting missiles at apartment buildings and purely civilian infrastructure with no military value just to murder and terrorize people just trying to live their lives.
If there's anyone here that's a victim of propaganda and indoctrination, you'll find them in the mirror.
What does that have to do with anything?
Why are you so delusional to set up bullshit criteria and think you should be taken seriously by rational people?
I mean even though the Russian state is utterly corrupt, this recruiting vector seems way to convoluted to be practical.
It might also be that they did volunteer, but made up this story in order to seem the victim.
From another comment in here it sounds like someone scammed them into going to Belarus where they didn't have authorization to be and were arrested as criminals and criminals can be conscripts.
Doesn't seem like the Russian government is doing this intentionally as much as they're looking the other way since it benefits them. I wouldn't be surprised if the scammer gets a kickback from whomever in the police is benefiting from sending the army conscripts.
Boy, my sympathy went to 0 pretty damn fast. Might as well have said they went to Nazi Germany as tourists.
edit: grammar
There was a whole Olympics hosted by Nazi Germany.
So Russia's worse than Hitlers's Germany?
Putin's Russia also hosted Olympics
I don't know if media coverage and public awareness about the atrocities are high enough in India to make that judgement.
Russia sell oil cheap to India, so they are good?
The argument is basically "they've never done anything to us, so we're good". But yeah the cheap stuff must help.
Sorry, the power of pedantry compels me. Hope this is of help at least.
Thank you. I knew it looked/sounded wrong.
You are a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.
Or maybe it's just a bad idea to play tourist in countries that are engaged in active war
Weird how you just moved the goalposts from "Russia is a bad nation" to "it's only bad because it's in active war."
You will never acknowledge how you're a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.
I'm not OP lol
To me this story is about idiots visiting a nation at war and ending up a part of it. Big surprise
Then why are you replying to me?
Make your own comments.
Lemmy is a discussion site my dude, replying to comments is what it's for. If you don't want replies, send a PM
Yes, but you're replying to comments that have nothing to do with what you're saying.
Just start your own chain instead of trying to hijack others.
Makes irrelevant comments like "You are a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism."
Ok I'll stop feeding the trolls now, have yourself a nice day
Not really.
You just don't like what's being said so you pretend not to understand it.
I see it all the time and don't expect more from people like you.
🍿😃🍿
Got any links to news stories about tourists in Ukraine getting forced into fighting for them.
Take your time. I'll wait.
Or how about Ukraine intentionally targeting missiles at apartment buildings and purely civilian infrastructure with no military value just to murder and terrorize people just trying to live their lives.
If there's anyone here that's a victim of propaganda and indoctrination, you'll find them in the mirror.
What does that have to do with anything?
Why are you so delusional to set up bullshit criteria and think you should be taken seriously by rational people?
I mean even though the Russian state is utterly corrupt, this recruiting vector seems way to convoluted to be practical.
It might also be that they did volunteer, but made up this story in order to seem the victim.
From another comment in here it sounds like someone scammed them into going to Belarus where they didn't have authorization to be and were arrested as criminals and criminals can be conscripts.
Doesn't seem like the Russian government is doing this intentionally as much as they're looking the other way since it benefits them. I wouldn't be surprised if the scammer gets a kickback from whomever in the police is benefiting from sending the army conscripts.