Ill move to server that has defederated meta completely
You can find servers based on Threads defederation through this site. Since you don't want anything to do with Threads, I suggest filtering by 'blocked' and 'Fedipact' I'm not sure what the difference is between the two is though, so I'd appreciate if someone would explain.
That's a really good site too, though I suggest using fedipact.veganism.social if you're specifically interested in which instances are defederated from Threads. Some instances have hidden blocklists and won't show if they have defederated Threads if you search through defed.xyz.
For example: You can only see that retro.pizza and masto.ai have hidden blocklists if you look through defed.xyz. However, if you look on fedipact.veganism.social, you can see that retro.pizza has joined the Fedipact against Threads, while masto.ai is fully federated with them.
I'm not sure what the difference is between the two is though, so I'd appreciate if someone would explain.
I don't really care about that, but given that defederation with particular instances is a good way to get a feel for what content and instance allows/disallows, it'd be nice to be able to filter instances on https://lemmyverse.net and https://lemmy.fediverse.observer and https://kbin.fediverse.observer by whether an instance is defederated or not with some list of other instances. Like, maybe you want an instance that federates with instances providing pornography (lemmynsfw.com) but not extremist political positions (hexbear.net). Right now, it's a very manual process to check the federation list on many instances.
I signed the fedipact yet mine isn't listed there, at least it says "blocked".
How does one "move" to a different instance? Or do I have to make a new account and start over?
You create a new account on a new instance and then you export your subscriptions and settings from your old Lemmy server to your new ones, you lose your comment history but that doesn’t really matter on Lemmy like your post history does on Masto
When you say export, is there a tool for that for, like, mass exporting your subs? Or do I have to manually search each one and sub again?
I ask because I've been meaning to switch to my alt, but I made a point of subbing to as many communities as possible to make Lemmy more fun to use for me, and good lord, it's a lot to do.
I was thinking about joining one that's federated with them. I'd get a look at the normal side of the internet, what's going on there without having to join I forgot what's it called.
Nah that is a positive for them as they will harvest the data on that server, so that is a no for me.
In don't think we should federate either but most of that data is public anyway. Everything on mastodon and lemmy can be scraped without being federated.
There is just no way that they will not get more data if you are involved directly with them.
If for nothing else we know they have had meetings with server owners across lemmy and mastodon and also meta have historically provided resources in the hopes of capturing a market. It is not that farfetched that they would have to provide funding when they federate with servers because their userbase is so huge and that could be detrimental to the freedom associated with lemmy.
I'd imagine they'd get more data out of me if I was forced to join Threads directly.
But they are not the options, they will get all of your data by being a member, a lot by federating and fairly little by staying away from them.
They're the options if you want to still check it out and maybe interact with it, which is what I wanted to do. Of course not having anything to do with them gives them even less.
Good thing being forced to join a website isn't a thing, dawg.
You do realize that for a conversation to work, you should consider the whole context of it instead of just the last sentence said
Ill move to server that has defederated meta completely
You can find servers based on Threads defederation through this site. Since you don't want anything to do with Threads, I suggest filtering by 'blocked' and 'Fedipact' I'm not sure what the difference is between the two is though, so I'd appreciate if someone would explain.
theres also https://defed.xyz/
That's a really good site too, though I suggest using fedipact.veganism.social if you're specifically interested in which instances are defederated from Threads. Some instances have hidden blocklists and won't show if they have defederated Threads if you search through defed.xyz.
For example: You can only see that retro.pizza and masto.ai have hidden blocklists if you look through defed.xyz. However, if you look on fedipact.veganism.social, you can see that retro.pizza has joined the Fedipact against Threads, while masto.ai is fully federated with them.
Looks like to be part of the fedipact you have to sign this: https://fedipact.online/
I don't really care about that, but given that defederation with particular instances is a good way to get a feel for what content and instance allows/disallows, it'd be nice to be able to filter instances on https://lemmyverse.net and https://lemmy.fediverse.observer and https://kbin.fediverse.observer by whether an instance is defederated or not with some list of other instances. Like, maybe you want an instance that federates with instances providing pornography (lemmynsfw.com) but not extremist political positions (hexbear.net). Right now, it's a very manual process to check the federation list on many instances.
I signed the fedipact yet mine isn't listed there, at least it says "blocked".
How does one "move" to a different instance? Or do I have to make a new account and start over?
You create a new account on a new instance and then you export your subscriptions and settings from your old Lemmy server to your new ones, you lose your comment history but that doesn’t really matter on Lemmy like your post history does on Masto
When you say export, is there a tool for that for, like, mass exporting your subs? Or do I have to manually search each one and sub again?
I ask because I've been meaning to switch to my alt, but I made a point of subbing to as many communities as possible to make Lemmy more fun to use for me, and good lord, it's a lot to do.
I was thinking about joining one that's federated with them. I'd get a look at the normal side of the internet, what's going on there without having to join I forgot what's it called.
Nah that is a positive for them as they will harvest the data on that server, so that is a no for me.
In don't think we should federate either but most of that data is public anyway. Everything on mastodon and lemmy can be scraped without being federated.
There is just no way that they will not get more data if you are involved directly with them.
If for nothing else we know they have had meetings with server owners across lemmy and mastodon and also meta have historically provided resources in the hopes of capturing a market. It is not that farfetched that they would have to provide funding when they federate with servers because their userbase is so huge and that could be detrimental to the freedom associated with lemmy.
I'd imagine they'd get more data out of me if I was forced to join Threads directly.
But they are not the options, they will get all of your data by being a member, a lot by federating and fairly little by staying away from them.
They're the options if you want to still check it out and maybe interact with it, which is what I wanted to do. Of course not having anything to do with them gives them even less.
Good thing being forced to join a website isn't a thing, dawg.
You do realize that for a conversation to work, you should consider the whole context of it instead of just the last sentence said