For now... 🖕🏽 They worded that so weasely, they're just waiting for the storm to pass and for Legal to come up with some compelling reason why they're totally "obligated" to make it happen, "hands tied" "so sorry" and all that.
Fuck Sony. They made this SOP way back when, and there's no way they let this stop them forever. It's all about profit, not what "we" want.
Backfire 2, Steam refund boogaloo when?
Sounds about right.
"Helldivers 2 players get exactly what they wanted, still unhappy."
You don't lower your guard just because the fight is over. It's not like Sony has morals or any trustworthiness to keep to this even in the midterm.
Or, more rationally, you all invested so much of yourselves into your gamer outrage campaign and built yourselves up as the underdogs fighting the big, mean corporation. And when, to your own surprise, you actually won and got all of your demands met without compromise, you still can't let it go because you managed to incorporate all that upset over a video game into your personal identities over just a few days time.
So now, instead of celebrating your win, you'll limply cling to your hatred of Sony for a few more days or weeks until everyone finds something else to get upset about.
You talk like this never happened before
I talk like I have seen this exact same thing happen over and over and I'm sick of capital-G Gamers throwing tantrums over every inconvenience. You aren't Union Men fighting for your rights. You're gamers upset by a TOS change to your new toy even though Steam was going beyond their own policy to honor refunds.
NGL, you sound like a capital-R Redditor.
Aw, the gamer is upset I forced some introspection into their life.
But no, I'm sorry. You're totally a noble warrior who fought back the evil Sony and now must remain ever vigilant lest Kazuo Hirai leap from the shadows and scream "Riiiiidge Racer" at you and take away your toys while Gabe Newell gives you your money back and sheepishly shrugs like "I know, right? This guy, man."
This is such a weird thing to be upset over, and a weird side to take so passionately that you do.
I don't even play Helldivers, nor do I plan to after this, it's just on the one side there's random upset people, on the other side there is the corp that got infamous for distributing straight up malware in a weird effort to enforce DRM. Why would people go back to being happy with a company that tried to fuck them over, and then walked its position back to the status quo with no commitments of not trying this again later.
The "random upset people" on the former side were perfectly happy to give their money to the "corp" on the latter side before the TOS change. This has nothing to do with how untrustworthy Sony has been in the past and everything to do with upset Gamers wanting to keep their outrage party going even after they got what they wanted.
The problem is who can you give money to for entertainment if not to the same 3 corps who have bought everything, and how else can you protest them doing stuff that's outrageous even by their standards?
Don't feed the fuck clown.
The fuck clowns are buying up our culture. It's hard to not participate in it. I don't play these kinds of games, but I've nothing on people who do. We should beat up the fuck clowns until they serve society again.
And just to be clear, I am advocating violence in the form of stringent regulations binding corporations towards socially beneficial paths. I advocate for violent anti-trust measures to the point even the execs don't know who is still working for them and who has been broken off to another company to compete freely. And I want worker protections that cause mind-bending fear in wage thieves.
For now... 🖕🏽 They worded that so weasely, they're just waiting for the storm to pass and for Legal to come up with some compelling reason why they're totally "obligated" to make it happen, "hands tied" "so sorry" and all that.
Fuck Sony. They made this SOP way back when, and there's no way they let this stop them forever. It's all about profit, not what "we" want.
Backfire 2, Steam refund boogaloo when?
Sounds about right.
"Helldivers 2 players get exactly what they wanted, still unhappy."
You don't lower your guard just because the fight is over. It's not like Sony has morals or any trustworthiness to keep to this even in the midterm.
Or, more rationally, you all invested so much of yourselves into your gamer outrage campaign and built yourselves up as the underdogs fighting the big, mean corporation. And when, to your own surprise, you actually won and got all of your demands met without compromise, you still can't let it go because you managed to incorporate all that upset over a video game into your personal identities over just a few days time.
So now, instead of celebrating your win, you'll limply cling to your hatred of Sony for a few more days or weeks until everyone finds something else to get upset about.
You talk like this never happened before
I talk like I have seen this exact same thing happen over and over and I'm sick of capital-G Gamers throwing tantrums over every inconvenience. You aren't Union Men fighting for your rights. You're gamers upset by a TOS change to your new toy even though Steam was going beyond their own policy to honor refunds.
NGL, you sound like a capital-R Redditor.
Aw, the gamer is upset I forced some introspection into their life.
But no, I'm sorry. You're totally a noble warrior who fought back the evil Sony and now must remain ever vigilant lest Kazuo Hirai leap from the shadows and scream "Riiiiidge Racer" at you and take away your toys while Gabe Newell gives you your money back and sheepishly shrugs like "I know, right? This guy, man."
This is such a weird thing to be upset over, and a weird side to take so passionately that you do.
I don't even play Helldivers, nor do I plan to after this, it's just on the one side there's random upset people, on the other side there is the corp that got infamous for distributing straight up malware in a weird effort to enforce DRM. Why would people go back to being happy with a company that tried to fuck them over, and then walked its position back to the status quo with no commitments of not trying this again later.
The "random upset people" on the former side were perfectly happy to give their money to the "corp" on the latter side before the TOS change. This has nothing to do with how untrustworthy Sony has been in the past and everything to do with upset Gamers wanting to keep their outrage party going even after they got what they wanted.
The problem is who can you give money to for entertainment if not to the same 3 corps who have bought everything, and how else can you protest them doing stuff that's outrageous even by their standards?
Don't feed the fuck clown.
The fuck clowns are buying up our culture. It's hard to not participate in it. I don't play these kinds of games, but I've nothing on people who do. We should beat up the fuck clowns until they serve society again.
And just to be clear, I am advocating violence in the form of stringent regulations binding corporations towards socially beneficial paths. I advocate for violent anti-trust measures to the point even the execs don't know who is still working for them and who has been broken off to another company to compete freely. And I want worker protections that cause mind-bending fear in wage thieves.
I didn't have anything to do with this and never got involved. I watched from the sides. I don't even play or own Helldivers 2.
You don't get to do something shitty then expect everyone to be happy. If you want that, you shouldn't have done the shitty thing in the first place.
Seriously. Jesus Christi, peopke