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I hope history will be harsh towards her.

She couldn't care less. She's aiming for a Supreme Court pick if Trump gets re-elected. She'd be a perfect replacement for Clarence Thomas.

If a reckoning came her way, would it be a supreme Court thing right away? I do worry she'll skate if it is ... but I half worry J. Alito or J. Thomas feel they could simply whack a progressive counterpart and then have no court in which to defend themselves ... and thus skate as well to open up space for her.

Nightmare fuel and nothing more, of course.

Considering that right now fascists are gaining power everywhere in the "western world", it doesn't seem likely. Well, not until decades and probably a bloody war or two later, at any rate.

Fascist regimes don't last long because they all eventually turn their violence inward. They breed the sort of mistrust and lack of questioning that don't make them effective societies.

Tell that to Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, Zimbabwe, China and North Korea, which have been authoritarian for decades now. I'm sorry, what does "lasting long" mean?

You are aware that there are more types of authoritarian governments than just "fascism," right?

"No, not like that..!!!!"

Well, you're just moving the goal post.

Fascist regimes don’t last long because they all eventually turn their violence inward.

Where in that sentence is implied that the countries I mentioned should be excluded?

Fascist regimes

^ Right here is where they specified that they weren’t talking about all authoritarian societies but a subset.
If you want to argue that your list is all fascist countries then do that, but they did not move any goalposts by correcting you after giving what you labeled authoritarian countries instead of fascist ones specifically.

Ok. Which of the countries I mentioned is not fascist and why?

The fact that me pointing out why your accusing someone else of moving the goalpost isn’t true and a mistake on your part is met by you immediately trying to make me disprove a claim you haven’t even made explicitly yet, makes me think this will go nowhere regardless of anything I might say.
Will you acknowledge your mistake and move forward? If so I’m open to discussing it further, but if you continue to avoid the points made as if to never acknowledge when you are wrong then I’m not going to bother.

I think you're seeing my question as confrontional, thinking that I will continue rebutting for the sake of rebutting.

I took a step back. Take one step back too. I'm willing to be corrected. I'm willing to question my reasoning.

But I can't just say "oh sorry" without seeing the whole picture.

Now, could you please answer the question? It was a genuine one. Don't be like the other one who said "ooh hoo u not worth it" when I was already open for a genuine exchange.

Would Franco's Spain and Pinoche's Argentina somewhat contradict that assertion? They both lasted a good long time before there was a slow transition away from their regimes from what I remember.

And she'll be a footnote, after she's spent her life ensconced in power and being showered with gifts for serving the cause. She'll have a much nicer life than people who had integrity and cared about their fellow man, but we'll be comforted that someday she'll get her judgement.

I doubt she'll get any judgement in life, and being agnostic I doubt she'll get any after it.

Unfortunately, much too often the reward of evil is wealth and power.

Why wait? She'll live a long life. There's plenty of time to hold her accountable for aiding and abetting Trump.

She probably would not have denied it had the prosecutors had a 3-7 minute conversation with Trump's defense and had determined they couldn't have come to an agreement. Prosecutorial arrogance allowed them to just ignore procedure and they figured they could get away with it.

Also, if the prosecutors have such good evidence, maybe instead of worrying so much about what Trump is speechifying on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, they could just prosecute him? Are they really afraid that a jury is so stupid that they are going to be persuaded by Trump ranting tweets or Xes or whatever they are called now on that enshitified platform? Either they have weak evidence or this is just a power play to try to control Trump's ability to say what he wants (and ignore the court rules) and they thought they could get away with it.

This is the equivalent of thoughts and prayers. Get out and organize

Not much I can do on my end, considering I don't live in the US. I'll keep watching the dumpster fire from above.

Holy shit, how are things in heaven, and how do I get there?

Oh wait, you mean space? Same questions!

j/k just hoping the populist conservatism doesn't catch hold in Canada.

We have angry Milhouse stirring shit up North, so yeah populist conservatism is on the rise.