Part of me says the real solution is to stop paying people $12m a year to throw balls around, but then again compared to the amount the people who own the teams and league get, shits chump change.
It's not that they throw a ball around really well, it's that the NBA brings in over 10 billion in annual revenue because of these players. How much are you willing to pay someone to bring in that amount of money?
This is kind of what people are missing. These people really do produce millions of dollars worth of labour. That's how entertainers are paid; the more people want to see their performance, the more that performance is worth.
I feel like enshitification has hit the NBA too. People keep saying, as you are, that these contracts are worth it because they bring in the money, but the games to me personally are unwatchable.
There are ads EVERYWHERE, constantly... Every inch, every second is plastered with ads. I don't bother watching anything until the playoffs, and even then I pick my poison.
Now, obviously my opinion doesn't matter because there are people watching, but I honestly don't know how much longer it can go... They play ads between free throws...
If you watched the Olympic games it feels like it isn't even the same sport, it's so much more enjoyable.
If anything, more athletes need big paychecks to more evenly distribute wealth from the top. Anything to drive that money into the hands of others.
The first change needs to be teams pay for their own stadiums instead of them being taxpayer funded from cites and states. I don't care if it will drive tourism, use that money to take care of the purple in the city and make the city a nice place, even make it a nice place for a stadium, but make the team owners/pro leagues pay for their own damn stadium.
Those paychecks for athletes don't go up unless the owners' paychecks go up even more, unfortunately.
Sure but if someone paid you $12m a year to throw a ball around, would you take it?
If another team offered you $13m would you change teams?
If everyone else is getting paid $12m, can I just pay you $50k?
Also if the entire NBA colluded to reduce everyones pay by $1m per year, every year, would that be fair and reasonable?
Well that's the thing. The team is going to make $X in revenue, so who should get that money? The owners or the players? People are paying to see the players not the owners.
Besides that, achieving equity by pushing people down rather than raising people up seems like the wrong way to go about it.
Capitalism leads to dumb outcomes
Yet you wouldn't say the same thing if one of your kids gets into sports and gets paid the big bucks🤑. Marxists drive me nuts sometimes
Because people are greedy and lose their ethics once they profit from it?
Is that what you would do?
What ethics exactly are we talking about. I never made any mention of ethics or greed, and neither does the comment i responded to.
The commenter i responded to had a problem with people making money from playing a sport even though they didn't sleight anyone to make it. In fact, It's common folk like us who willingly give them our money by way of tickets and TV subscriptions. I hate it when communists badmouth capitalism while actively contributing to it.
Ok, so your issue is with the perceived hypocrisy of someone disliking the system they're part of.
Do you also get mad when prisoners hate prison? They're participating in it. Without their crimes it wouldn't function.
You have no idea what our financial situations are. Whatever you think that we wouldn't do, remember that there's a lot of us out here.
It takes a particularly narcissistic individual to believe that whatever selfish action they would take is definitely the same action that everyone else in the world would take.
That's nice but unfortunately the real solution is A.
Part of me says the real solution is to stop paying people $12m a year to throw balls around, but then again compared to the amount the people who own the teams and league get, shits chump change.
It's not that they throw a ball around really well, it's that the NBA brings in over 10 billion in annual revenue because of these players. How much are you willing to pay someone to bring in that amount of money?
This is kind of what people are missing. These people really do produce millions of dollars worth of labour. That's how entertainers are paid; the more people want to see their performance, the more that performance is worth.
I feel like enshitification has hit the NBA too. People keep saying, as you are, that these contracts are worth it because they bring in the money, but the games to me personally are unwatchable.
There are ads EVERYWHERE, constantly... Every inch, every second is plastered with ads. I don't bother watching anything until the playoffs, and even then I pick my poison.
Now, obviously my opinion doesn't matter because there are people watching, but I honestly don't know how much longer it can go... They play ads between free throws...
If you watched the Olympic games it feels like it isn't even the same sport, it's so much more enjoyable.
If anything, more athletes need big paychecks to more evenly distribute wealth from the top. Anything to drive that money into the hands of others.
The first change needs to be teams pay for their own stadiums instead of them being taxpayer funded from cites and states. I don't care if it will drive tourism, use that money to take care of the purple in the city and make the city a nice place, even make it a nice place for a stadium, but make the team owners/pro leagues pay for their own damn stadium.
Those paychecks for athletes don't go up unless the owners' paychecks go up even more, unfortunately.
Sure but if someone paid you $12m a year to throw a ball around, would you take it?
If another team offered you $13m would you change teams?
If everyone else is getting paid $12m, can I just pay you $50k?
Also if the entire NBA colluded to reduce everyones pay by $1m per year, every year, would that be fair and reasonable?
Well that's the thing. The team is going to make $X in revenue, so who should get that money? The owners or the players? People are paying to see the players not the owners.
Besides that, achieving equity by pushing people down rather than raising people up seems like the wrong way to go about it.
Capitalism leads to dumb outcomes
Yet you wouldn't say the same thing if one of your kids gets into sports and gets paid the big bucks🤑. Marxists drive me nuts sometimes
Because people are greedy and lose their ethics once they profit from it?
Is that what you would do?
What ethics exactly are we talking about. I never made any mention of ethics or greed, and neither does the comment i responded to.
The commenter i responded to had a problem with people making money from playing a sport even though they didn't sleight anyone to make it. In fact, It's common folk like us who willingly give them our money by way of tickets and TV subscriptions. I hate it when communists badmouth capitalism while actively contributing to it.
Ok, so your issue is with the perceived hypocrisy of someone disliking the system they're part of.
Do you also get mad when prisoners hate prison? They're participating in it. Without their crimes it wouldn't function.
You have no idea what our financial situations are. Whatever you think that we wouldn't do, remember that there's a lot of us out here.
It takes a particularly narcissistic individual to believe that whatever selfish action they would take is definitely the same action that everyone else in the world would take.
That's nice but unfortunately the real solution is A.